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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:46 PM Original message |
The thing is, I have doubts. Reasonable, legitimate doubts. Others do too. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. Phrase It However You Like, Sir |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I find your certainty to by mystifying. |
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RummyTheDummy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
68. That poster (moderator) is a Clinton supporter |
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1corona4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Exactly. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. The massive difference in the numbers between a plethora of polls before |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Only, Sir, If You Consider Polls Infallible |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. In the 2004 election, you had this to say about the issue, Magistrate. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. No, Sir, You Do Not Have That |
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springhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
56. No, you are wrong on that............ |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. I think only a foolish person would not be upset by severaol things |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
29. None Of This, Ma'am, has Any Particular Being On the Vote Count Yesterday In New Hampshire |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. It is the people's duty, not the politicians, to safeguard their own elections. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Good Luck With That, Sir.... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Nice argument. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:21 AM Response to Reply #42 |
60. And why are you as a citizen arguing against |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
77. >>Let me know when you get into the rooms where the officials carry out the count.... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
63. Nor is there any reason to be confident that fraud didn't ... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 03:25 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Nonsense, Mr. Jefferson |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:45 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Please show me ... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. A strawman is still straw even if stuffed with $100 dollar words, Sir. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. It would also appear that a valid point is a valid point |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I did not avoid a valid point. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. We need more election reform |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. As I said, I do NOT know or suggest that it was hacked. I suggest I want verification. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well if anyone other than Senator Clinton wins anything, I am |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Right on! |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. 2004 and the way Mary Jo Kilroy was robbed in 2006, make this entirely justified |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
79. Have you read that Brunner is investigating Franklin Co BOE? |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. How come no one questioned the results of the Iowa primary? |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I want to know if they was drinking and smoking funny stuff |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #11 |
51. My bad! Completely forgot it was a caucus.! Must be tired! |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
70. Heh, wouldn't be surprised |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Yes, and the saintly Hillary voters would never do such a thing. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I'm guessing because it was totally transparent, filmed, on TV and hand-counted? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Whaaaaaat? |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Maybe because Iowa was a CAUCUS, not a primary? |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Or it could be that Iowa caucuses |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Caucuses can certainly be rigged |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. totally different counting system in Iowa. diebold wasn't there. |
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Jane Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
47. Because it wasn't a primary. It was a caucus |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
10. did you vote in the NH primary? |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Some idiot just called the Gene Burns show on KGO, San Francisco... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. How COULD anyone have proof. It's impossible. Thus the need for verification. |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. NH has paper |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
17. The complete lack of evidence..... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Your post is completely without content. Do you have anything of substance to say? |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. What this guy was screaming about was the busing in of outside voters... |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #20 |
55. Yes |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. No, BS would be knee-jerk dismissals of the need for greater scrutiny |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 03:53 AM Response to Reply #55 |
67. What about the substance? |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 03:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
66. The complete lack of an openly transparent and verifiable electoral process... |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
26. I must agree. While I don't see it as likely, elections must be independent in fact and appearance |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Obama can have a recount if he wants one |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. That's why I don't believe there is voter fraud |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. It isn't the people's duty to protect their own voting rights? Wow! Good luck with that! |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. he people' don't have legal standing to demand a recount |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. . |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. The sheeple don't seem interested. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. He cannot have one without commiting political suicide. |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Sure he could.... if you think he should have a recount |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I do? I'm bitching? Wow! You completely discounted my statement and went right to |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. It's because I actually read all of your posts about this |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. If there is any issue, this certainly is an issue to become "hysterical" about. |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. If it's a fight worth fighting for.... which is more important |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Whatever. Now you are saying it is irrelevant whether it was a fair vote or not? |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I'm saying there's a path to address your concerns |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. As I said, Obama is NOT my candidate and I don't care about him. I care about my vote (and yours). |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Honey, you've now officially jumped the shark |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. No, shark-jumpers are those who scorn others who hold the electoral process up to scrutiny |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:21 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. No, been a veteran of Democratic politics for a long time |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Actually I know a lot about this, T_K, and Diebold is hardly the only issue |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Ouch! I guess Miss Kat could not handle that intelligent response. |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. idiocy always needs to be rewarded |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:52 AM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Do you ever feel like |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
53. A recount wouldn't likely change the delegate allocation |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
54. Mhatrw's thread has only confimed the need for further verification |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
58. Please contact Obama HQ and demand they investigate and that they accuse someone.... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
74. I believe voter fraud is a legitimate issue. |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-13-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. you mean election fraud, right? |
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