Diebold Favors Clinton! 6% switch; Here are the numbers & site link

Okay, I asked if anyone thought about the vote rigging and got reamed for it. So I found some numbers. Link at the bottom

There are a bunch of stats on this site, but here are the percentages.

Diebold Count:

Clinton Obama
53.23% 46.77%

Hand Count

Clinton Obama
47.47% 52.53%

They also have the actual vote counts and municipalities won.

Many of you said you wanted some proof to consider something was up... Here it is!

http://presscue.com/node/38034

they are supposed to update

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already favored Obama heavily.

For it to amount to proof of anything, you would need information on the various precincts, towns, and cities sufficient to establish the political leanings within each, and establish that they were not differential levels of support for the candidates correlating to other factors between them.

Just sayin...

I did't imply that. I did't mention that. DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH

"Diebold Favors Clinton! 6% switch; Here are the numbers & site link."

-mrdemocrat78

Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining...

...to the preferred corp friendly candidate.

Or even been on the debate team...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

They are damed if they do and damned if they don't.

I was of the same thought earlier but then I got to thinking of who looks like crack pots and decided let them.

Take a chill pill... And if there is any proof of this, it damn well better be investigated, and now.

"Diebold Favors Clinton! 6% switch; Here are the numbers & site link"

-mrdemocrat78

As a matter of fact, when it was made clear that NH was using mainly Diobold machines I had the same concerns early yesterday...


And once again you are putting words to peoples posts that aren't there... I don't see anywhere that I personally called you stupid in my post, I said your post was stupid...

That's a distinction without a difference...

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I'll be waiting.

people believe it! I believe in "freedom of speech" but i'm gonna do an Bill O moment for ya...SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTT UUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!:grr::grr::grr::grr:

...and I think we, as the DU, should refuse to accept ANY election result that makes use of Diebold machines on principle.

The 20% of votes counted by hand. I presume those are rural small precincts and early reporting? We need all the factors before lining two things up and saying one difference only.

Amazing how unprepared anyone is after all this time. I expect any real mischief will be buried on Super Tuesday. The biggest mischief effect here still appears to be spreading doubt about the totals period.
We don't have reforms yet. Cheating works if it is done. If it is going to be an educated guess we need a lot more education because the raw evidence is privatized, sanitized, digitized and history.

Not calling you all wet, but we have to do better than this and the sooner the better. The Ohio ballot initiatives had a reasonable basis to refute the cries of fraud, the reason being the miserable format of the overlong ballot itself.

We need to be prepared with better grass roots exit polls somehow, rigorously free of bias. Of course that is a weak substitute for stopping the fraud in the first place.

You'd have to at least correlate with poll data in each precinct to see if there are discrepancies.

In any case, it doesn't answer the real question, which is how could there be so much discrepancy between ALL the polls and the final result. They do say a woman's tears are stronger than any acid ;) ... just being facetious there.

- C

Clinton won fair and square. Her team played it perfectfully.

I demand an investigation into the Iowa vote. I heard Obama sent bus loads of voters in from Illinois with fake id's to vote for him. I guess you just need a name, address and d.o.b to vote in the Iowa caucus.

It's clear Edwards won Iowa and not Obama.

In another post you "witnessed" it.

which would match the trend of Obama doing better in the sticks than in the cities. Sounds about right, actually.

If you suspect fraud call the Obama campaign and report your statistical analysis. Amazing that they haven't discovered what you have.

The ballots are 100% hand countable WITHOUT any Diebold machine intervention. Why hasn't that been done?

Please see my post, here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4009174&mesg_id=4012627

This isn't somehow two different ways of looking at the SAME votes, am I right?

So what's the point?