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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:13 PM Original message |
ALL Diebold, ALL the Time - It's the NH Primary |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. Add to this media manipulation, and we don't stand a chance of electing |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. They'll try but remember the first outbreak of the non violent revolution - Sean of the Dread |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. GO BUZZ IT at BuzzFlash.Net (ID required) |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. Gee NPR is telling me it was the compassion vote |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Compassion voters must be this years values voters. What a swing! |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
57. And nothing to review, check. Businesses do inventories. Citizens get squat ! |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. Related thread.... |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Timing not bad, good topic, smart crowd, not 1/2 bad, eh? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. The crybaby fraudsters always bring this up when the vote doesn't go they way they want |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. only a fool would be fully confident in an election result produced on machines using secret code |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
46. um, optical scanners aren't touch screens |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:54 AM Response to Reply #46 |
65. The scanners have proprietary software too . . |
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bagrman (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
94. It will be interesting to see the diff between caucus states and the ones that use machines. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. do some quick searches on LHS President John Silvestro + diebold |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
56. The post was written 18 hours before the results. It objects to SECRET VOTE COUNTING |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #56 |
77. Tue Jan-08-08 11:13 PM |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
107. WELLINGTON NZ TIME ON THE POST-CONVERTS TO 5:13 am TUESDAY, 1/8 |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #107 |
149. I can confirm that...... n/t |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #107 |
158. Someone owes you an apology. Freddie? /nt |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
73. A rather smug position re the broad dangers of election fraud of the past elections |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:21 AM Response to Reply #73 |
171. All ballots were on paper. There is a paper trail |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
122. begging your pardon? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:20 AM Response to Reply #122 |
170. I said "The crybaby fraudsters always bring this up when the vote doesn't go they way they want" |
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mckara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
139. That's It, Defend the Status Quo, Like a Good Lemming! |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. "a startling upset", " shocking victory" |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. pre-primary polls: "would lose big, perhaps by double digits" |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. "Defying expectations of a humiliating double-digit rout" |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Fox News polls Jan 7 and throughout election day: |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. "there were few --if any - political strategists who believed Clinton had any real chance at victoy" |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. "Clinton's own campaign seemed resigned to a loss as recently as early this evening " |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. "stunning turnabout. Given how dire her situation had appeared just hours earlier" |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Thanks for the additions, kansasblue. |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I see www.bradblog.com is working the numbers now. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. It's the never knowing with any certainty what actually happened |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #34 |
88. Frankly, I believe unintentional discrepancies would absolutely pale |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #88 |
118. Yes, everyone should vote, especialy under uncertain corcumstances, |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #118 |
134. Please excuse my misspelling of "especially " and "circumstances." |
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Laura PourMeADrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
40. Just like Bush was on the night of the 04 election until Jeb told |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. and don't forget his 2000 primary upset -- in NH. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Superb value added. Thanks for finding and sharing this. Very efficient. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
10. Or, how a 13 point lead in the polls can be erased in 30 seconds! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. Deleted message |
Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
12. ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THIS PRIMARY WAS FIXED?? |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. they are, they're just full of sour grapes tonight. and ignoring the EXIT Polls.. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
124. don't be silly |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:33 AM Response to Reply #16 |
183. I wrote the article. I have not picked a candidate. The interest in voting rights here is huge. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Let's just say everything's on the table. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
33. I'm suggesting that SECRET VOTE COUNTING, unavailable to the public is WRONG |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
169. Harper, why are you guys so concerned about what DUers think? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
15. What's Obama's record on fighting election fraud? |
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LiberalMandrake (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. How can Hillary Clinton win with 5 pct of the votes? Answer: because Obama says it's legit |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
39. Did he stand with Boxer and the CBC in January 2005? |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
115. paperless voting machines Obama won't get the chance tostand up for ANY change |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
19. NH has paper ballots |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. 81% of votes counted by Diebold optical scanners. |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. paper forms counted by New Hampshire's optical scan voting machines, all made by Diebold. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. All you had to fucking do was read the goddam article, ol' rolly-eyes. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
104. I somewhat agree but think you are being too harsh with Breeze |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:56 PM Response to Reply #104 |
119. Yes, I was too harsh. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #19 |
36. You're referring to paper forms run through optical scans. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:51 AM Response to Reply #36 |
59. I watched on TV as they dropped the pink & blue ballots in a box |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #59 |
89. 18% of the state does that. 82% optical scans nt |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #59 |
109. As it should be...NH 81% optical scanner tally; 19% paper ballots. |
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-08-08 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
27. But Then It Was Too Late |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Wow! Highly recommended!!!!!!!!!! |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
35. k&r |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
37. oh NO. Diebold in NH.... Diebold in Los Angeles. ... Ohio.....Florida?...... |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. "Diebold or live free" |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:56 AM Response to Reply #41 |
92. I was on the phone with Brazil last night after the polls closed. news headlines |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #92 |
102. That is quite the thing to tell us Robin Lynne |
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LiberalMandrake (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
113. The problem is not Diebold. It is the reduction of verifiable paper ballots to two digits. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
42. A Jack's A$$ For You |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
43. What are you suggesting? |
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kansasblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. The election equipment is neither Dem or Republican. |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Are Democrats the only ones with much at stake in this primary? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:10 AM Response to Reply #51 |
72. Don't need time |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #72 |
81. Just as ridiculous as election fraud |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Of course its possible... |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #93 |
103. Trust, but verify. Right? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #103 |
112. Here is what you do |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #112 |
129. Okay, sure. I'll just pick a precinct and flash my ID badge and they'll let me right through |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #129 |
162. Deal |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #112 |
130. I agree with your idea |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #112 |
150. Ok and how do we pick the precinct... people are in jail in Ohio because they succeeded.... |
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Vilis Veritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #72 |
160. It is not about the notion that Republicans prefer Hillary... |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
55. The suggestion is vey clear. Secret vote taking and counting is WRONG! |
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Laura PourMeADrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
45. Diebold machine the same as in Hacking Democracy |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
132. Anyone who hasn't seen Hacking Democracy |
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pnorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-02-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #132 |
185. Here it is at Google Video: |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
48. Kick. (nt) |
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msedano (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
49. Tobi & Collins, top notch work. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Nice! |
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msedano (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
50. Tobi & Collins, top notch work. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Well worth saying twice! THANKS! |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
52. My exchange over at TPM Cafe |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
58. Thank you for all your work autorank. Win, lose, or draw, Obama deserved a fair chance. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:52 AM Response to Reply #58 |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:17 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Horseshit. There is no point diddling with a fucking primary. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:44 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. maybe this is the perfect time to show this country what is going on |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
106. This is the first time I've heard the primary described as irrelevant. n/t |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
116. Other than to have people discount such anomalies in the future? |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
99. Radical notion - citizen controled and operated elections. |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:04 AM Response to Original message |
61. k&r |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
63. Kick ... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:05 AM Response to Original message |
66. We shouldn't be surprised since most of know that the fascists control us now. |
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Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
67. autorank - Thank you for your hard work! |
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Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:51 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. K & R |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #67 |
121. Thanks for your kind words! Here's how simple it is to have great elections |
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Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #121 |
167. Isn't this the kind of DEMOCRACY that Cheney/Bush claim is ON THE MARCH!!!??? |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #167 |
172. It's "the long march"...stomping on ourlivlihoods, values, health, and freedoms... |
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Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 03:46 AM Response to Reply #172 |
173. The Hypocrisy is as rank as it is rife... |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
68. K&R n/t |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
70. Well now we know who corporate America wants as their nominee |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. Welcome to Nightmare 2008 |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
71. The big hole in this argument is the belief that the Right wants Hillary--when the opposite is true. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Well, Diebold is made in Ohio... |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #74 |
90. Not his district nt |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #71 |
125. The OP didn't contain an argument about HRC. It condemned "secret" voting/elections |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
75. Diebold favors Hillary...surprised? |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
76. Obama won the hand-counted votes... |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #76 |
97. Very interesting |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
78. You know what the meaning of insanity is? |
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foo_bar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. insanity is believing fairy tales into adulthood |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:35 AM Original message |
the point is perception. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
101. the charade appears to be working |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
82. Welcome to Nightmare 2008! |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
83. Cause a woman couldn't win fairly, right? |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
126. I neigher supported or criticized any candidate in the article. It's about VOTING RIGHTS |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
84. Funny that the exit polls match the results |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. The article was written well in advance of the vote count. It's about secrecy not a candidate |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #84 |
135. You don't know much about exit polls do you? |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #135 |
166. If they release the unweighted data... |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
85. OMG, this is priceless!!! |
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riqster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. So you trust the current voting process? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #91 |
105. Apparently this person was willing to overlook |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
87. As I wrote on another thread, Michael, think how much the Republicans have to lose |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #87 |
128. They will lose their shirts, at the very least. |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #128 |
137. It's possible Romney was supposed to win |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #137 |
165. The Republicans are foiled by democracy;) |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
95. I can't believe we haven't gotten rid of these GODDAMNED machines yet. Good work. |
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bagrman (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Happiness would be the smell of burning voting machines in the morning. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #95 |
127. You know that I feel guilty when I see you use |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
98. And was anyone else MAD as HELL that the election was called |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
100. It's Premier Elections now. And I doubt it affect primaries. But watch for it in GE |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
108. k |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
110. Here's the nub of a post I sent to Guardian Talk, Michael, which contains |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
111. K&R A little despair and depression with my morning coffee! |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #111 |
180. Millions |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
114. Sad to say we'll be voting in an election that is not verifiable, how bad is that?!? |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
117. It's not about Hillary winning. |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
120. And who does the recount if paid per ballot? Certainly not Diebold/Premier?! Color me stunned, |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #120 |
138. What about Ron Paul? |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #138 |
157. Anyone with the power of "losing" and that will use that |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
123. "Not One Line Of Software Between A Voter And A Valid Election" |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
131. recommend, this has been on my mind as well |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
133. K&R. The machines must go. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
136. Everyone Should Be Demanding Hand Counted Paper Ballots |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
140. K&R |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #140 |
143. We are nothing to them |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #143 |
174. I hope we can go back to being the home of the brave in 2008. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
141. Debunked. Diebold only works for Republicans. nt |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. Diebold (Premier) works for Republicans who want to control elections. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. nonsense |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
142. Kick! |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
145. Thank you autorank! Well done. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #145 |
168. You are most welcome! |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
147. So the republicans who control the machines and HATE Hillary fixed it FOR her?? |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. Be good if someone thought up a new way to abuse people who want their votes counted... |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
148. Four points, then signing out. |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #148 |
154. Thoughtful Points. And four responses... |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
152. I just posted this on another thread, and I'll copy it here: |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #152 |
155. Precisely correct... and well said.. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #152 |
181. You define the issues succinctly. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
153. Kick. (nt) |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
156. How far spread is the use of these Diebold ballot scanners? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:19 AM Response to Reply #156 |
175. No. There are other brands. You can usually find out what systems |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
159. kick, kick, KICK! |
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chimpymustgo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Kick - wake up people!! nt |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
163. Kicking to read later |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #163 |
164. Another kick. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
176. k |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
177. KICK |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
178. Honouring this thread..... kick.... |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
179. Kick. (nt) |
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Indi Guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
182. kkkkkkk kick... |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
184. disappeared from gd-a kick |
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