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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:20 PM Original message |
47% undecideds in NH ? NO, not at all, 3 polls and the real undecideds in NH |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. 47% refers to "undecided" and "could you still change your mind" - not the data you show |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. This is directly from the PDF |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. I think we agree - just word usuage - if you're not "definitely decided" you could change your mind |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. right, but its tuff, if Obama ate a baby on CNN before the election |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. LOL - if I'm decided then I'm decided - the baby was tempting Obama ? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Oh, man. This cycle is on course to being dirtier than the last two. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Yeah I know, I wanna see the hand count in NH done |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. The folks in NH have serious concerns that they won't get a clean recount. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I keep thinking Chuck Hagel |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
3. Look at the difference in the strong support and persuadables |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Which poll ? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Your own. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I dont do polling, I cited 3 polls, and I dont see |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Find the 88 and 77 numbers. NT |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. The Marist poll, OK. What does those numbers mean |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. They mean |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I am not comfortable explaining the 88 & 77 |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Well let's see |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. "In short, his support was weaker and less driven." of course |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. Furthermore your own data shows this |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Correct, & small technical point |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. A poll is just a poll |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Good commentary, thank you, I think I tend to agree. |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
14. It means NH needs to conduct a recount of optically scanned ballots |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. YES, but Randi Rhodes was saying that there were 47% undecideds |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Why do we allow ourselves to be constantly "divided & conquered"? go figur. nt |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. A summary of final polls |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Like I said in the OP 3 days out 90%+ have decided |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Not so fast |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Those are not similar polls measuring the same thing. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I did. I still am doing. Sorry! NT |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
30. Kickin... |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Foger, sorry I missed the party |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
33. The problem is the descrepancy between machine and hand counted ballots. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-12-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Right, In addition the case for undecideds making the difference dosn't wash |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-14-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I was initially agreeing with you on that, but |
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