Recovered History: U.S. Election Fraud Circa 2000

Monday, 11 November 2002, 12:19 pm
Opinion: Guest Opinion

SNIP...However, mechanized and computerized voting machines have changed all that. Jim Condit, Jr., Founder of Citizens for a Fair Vote Count, says that hand counting has become outlawed in every state but New Hampshire and the Iowa Caucus. Worse, Condit says the right to observe the vote count has been effectively outlawed in those 49 states.

Citizens such as Dan Gutenkauf of Arizona, another speaker at the Convention, who attempt to exercise their right to observe elections have met with threats from election officers. It has now fallen to the Board of Elections to ensure that elections are fair and honest.

Chuck Geshlider of Pahrump, Nevada, made the following analogy during his speech Saturday night, August 26, 2000: Suppose you ate at a restaurant and got a queasy stomach. Wouldn't you ask to see the kitchen? And what would you think if they said no?

Sadly, the answer to many citizens' questions about verification of the validity of elections has been a resounding "NO!" from local Boards of Elections. Yet, it is the duty of the Boards of Elections to ensure that no vote tampering has taken place and that the vote count is fair and honest.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0211/S00067.htm

Wow! That article spreads more disinfo than an election official on the take from a voting machine vendor.

No wonder you torch and pitch-fork types come off like a bunch of


Go on and point to law outlawing Hand Counts. I'll bet there are a few, anyway.


And please stop misleading people.

Florida (always leading the nation in stupid election laws).



Any the Florida Department of State is backing up that law. They are suing Sarasota County for enacting a hand audit provision, saying that the hand counting would be illegal under state law.

I know of one other, too.

But I think kster, as the resident HCPB expert and arbiter of truth, should do a little homework.

Come on, kster. dO it FOr ThE cHIldREn!!11!

We're talking about Hand Counted elections. Right?

So what are the states that won't permit that???

In fact, which states STILL conduct Hand Counts, kster? There's at least one in addition to NH. You ought to know, it seems. And it would be cause for celebration and modeling...at least for those of us who want HCPB.

is true to HIMSELF and his cHIldREn!!11!


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before the ballots are allowed to leave the neighborhood, they must be hand counted by the people in that neighborhood (polling place),

This truth is self evident,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-evident

How do you want the ballots counted Wilms?

In addition to promoting HCPB as the mandated procedure in states that don't outlaw it, it's important to overturn law prohibiting it. Other strategies could be employed, too.

So are you willing to work for HCPB? :shrug:

If not, is it ok that me and eomer want to discuss it?

because your a coward, Plain and simple.

You try and bullshit everyone away from the fact that the votes are being counted IN SECRET!!

Your cHIldREn must be proud of you.

Go Daddy!!

MAN UP for christ sake!!


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I was hoping you might want to pitch in.

Oh, well.

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