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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-05-06 10:30 PM Original message |
Sin and Choice |
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Kiouni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-05-06 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. if you don't believe in hell their can be no |
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Kiouni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-05-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. one more thing |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-05-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. That first phrase is one reason why |
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Kiouni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-05-06 10:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. don't lose faith |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-05-06 10:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The book is in my library |
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Kiouni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-05-06 10:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I'm glad you've read |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-05-06 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. As a tangent, don't forget that God is *explicitly* Pro-Choice |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 03:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Well... |
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murray hill farm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-05-06 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
8. I dont know about the moral superiority part, but |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
10. I disagree: I think we do choose what we believe. |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Really? |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. This is an interesting distinction |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Rational process? |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. What does the phrase "leverage it's feelings" mean? |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 12:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Its about how the mind works |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Disagree again. |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Of course |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Reason is always part of the process |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Quite the opposite, for this atheist at least. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Well aren't you special |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Oh absolutely |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. So to what extent are we responsible for our beliefs? |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Choice |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. In other words if I stopped going to church |
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Brentos (230 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Interesting... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Naw, I'm not that special. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Interesting |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Oh it doesn't have to be exclusive interest in you. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Your case and the homosexual cases are distinct I would say |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I don't see how they're distinct. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Well those are the implications of my belief |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Yes, there are many atheists that take that route |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. There are some churches ok with atheists. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Well I checked in with Jimmy Carter |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. And everyone that truly seeks to rid themself of a belief in god will |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 01:04 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Wait - are you gay, trotsky? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. No, you didn't miss it - I'm terminally straight. :-) |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. This issue is speaking to the process of how the mind works |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Boy, I don't know. |
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Finder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I too had strong beliefs... |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-06-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Learning and life experience add weight to the scales |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
42. Anger is not a choice in most cases. |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. The emotion is not a choice, but |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-07-06 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
44. hi Az. |
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