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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:27 PM
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Poll question: After what Pol Pot did, is it possible to believe in God?
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:28 PM
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1. god, maybe. man, maybe not... :(
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:33 PM
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2. Europe collectively lost its faith in the last century
but it took them two world wars fought on their soil with a worldwide depression between them. Believers no longer have any faith in some personal deity that meddles in their daily lives. The deity who survived in Europe is the one that survives in most places east of Suez, an unknowable and totally impersonal one.

Most people I know there who still go to church say they do so to keep contact with both the past and the community.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:35 PM
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3. The Christian God, no.
The meanie from the old testament, yes. ;-) Actually, I think if there is a god, it doesn't possess human qualities and therefore is completely neutral in such matters.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:35 PM
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4. I'd say it proves that as far as MAN goes...
most other species have evolved further....
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cyborg_jim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:36 PM
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5. Yes, because people belive in God
Shit, that's an easy one.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:40 PM
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6. Should their knowledge of what Pol Pot did change their beliefs?
For example, should they cease to believe but not become confident that there is no God? Should they become confident that there is no God?
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:53 PM
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7. Lol....how many people do you think, specifically religious ones,
know who Pol Pot was? Hell, most people probably don't even know what continent Cambodia is on.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:11 AM
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18. Here's a link that might help them...
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 11:34 AM by Boojatta
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/78988.stm

An interesting peripheral point from the article at the above link:
One of his brothers, Saloth Neap, once described Pol Pot as a gentle and kind child. He added he had no idea what his sibling had become until he saw a poster of "Brother Number One" - Pol Pot's title as leader of the Khmer Rouge - hung up at his work collective.


Maybe not all of the above is peripheral:

He (i.e. Pol Pot) eventually lost his scholarship and returned to Phnom Penh in 1953.

Pol Pot then scaled the ranks of the underground Cambodian Communist Party and became secretary-general in 1962.

His success was attributed to his ability to combine remarkable charm and grace with an unflinching ruthlessness.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 02:59 PM
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8. "god" doesn`t have anything to do with it`
no matter who`s "god" it is it`s up to us to do what is right for our fellow human beings and the world around us
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 03:42 PM
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9. Yes because
God isn't some uber old guy in the sky who controls what happens. God is consciousness and all the matter in the universe is energy and all energy in the universe is consciousness. So you and I are God and I do believe in you and myself.

Universal energy follows the laws of physics where for every action there's always an equal but opposite reaction. This is the concept of yin & yang, as above so below, good vs evil, positive & negative, "on earth as it is in heaven", heaven vs hell, etc. So on a universal level of all the good and positive that exists, it is inevitable that negative and evil will exists.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:09 AM
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20. You need to find another word
Using the word God in that way supports the people who do think God is an old dude in the sky. Like when I read Gandhi's work, he seems to have a similar definition of the word God. With the result that he's always pulled out in debates to defend religion, as if a few good individuals could wipe out the stains of millenia of bloodshed and broken people.

People will think that you mean their definition of the word when you use it because I don't think they can comprehend your definition. I get it and I agree with you for the most part, but I am beginning to realize that some people's brains are a hell of a lot different than yours and mine.
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 04:21 PM
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10. Yes.
The tricky part is defining terms.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 05:41 PM
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11. What does Pol Pot have to do with God?
I mean, is there any indication that what he did was driven by religion?

Sid
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 07:33 PM
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12. Someone else's comment might be appropriate here.
Follow the link and you will see a DU post.

This really ranks as one of the nastiest copy-cat threads I've ever seen.
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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:07 PM
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14. Wow, I'm laughing even harder now.
Stop it, my sides are aching.
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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-04-08 11:03 PM
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13. Can I just say
that I think you're fucking hilarious?
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:56 PM
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15. No...
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 01:01 PM by Boojatta
William Jefferson Clinton is fucking Hillaryous.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 06:36 PM
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16. Lets ask this question too..
Is it possible to believe in gawd after the crusades and the inquisition? oh and the black plaque which was the result of religious nonsense, only the clergy and the riches were allowed to bath, everyone else went without. I would all the atrocities that Popes have committed but I do not have that much time.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:57 PM
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17. Kick to evoke more votes, comments, and questions.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 07:07 PM
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19. Possible for whom?
Lots of people still believe in God, even in the face of great brutality. Others don't.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:11 AM
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21. Yes, because humans are idiots and will believe anything no matter what
as long as it fulfills some need for them?
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 11:39 AM
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22. What if it were convenient to believe that the number of women
in America is right now an even number and the number of men in America is right now an odd number. How many humans would believe both that information and also the faith-based claim that the number of women in America is exactly equal to the number of men in America?
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