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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:21 AM
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Missouri school district bans 'biblically contrary' novels by Kurt Vonnegut and Sarah Ockler
Remember when The New York Times' David Carr made an offhand comment about Missouri and Kansas being home to "the dance of the low, sloping foreheads," and everyone got mad at East Coast elitism? It's infuriating to feel like people are judging you based on your zip code rather than your merits, especially when those people are the ones you view as your cultural allies.

That said, this story is a perfect example of why people elsewhere look down on us. Because it's hard to remember the last time a NYC school banned a book because someone complained it taught "principles contrary to the Bible."


In Republic, Missouri, the Republic High School board has unanimously voted to ban Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse Five and Sarah Ockler's Twenty Boy Summer. The books were named in a public complaint filed last year, along with the Laurie Halse Anderson novel Speak, which managed to stay on school shelves.

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The complaint was filed by Republic resident Wesley Scroggins, a professor of management at Missouri State, and author of several outraged letters to his daily newspaper on the moral dry rot of our public-school system. Last year, the Riverfront Times reported on Scroggins' deep concerns as a parent about the ideas his children are exposed to. His children, by the way, are home-schooled, and therefore not in danger of a teacher forcing them to read any of these books. Still, thought is like a virus, so what if some teenage Denny's waiter with a public-library card serves a Moon Over My Hammy to a Scroggins child? Next thing you know, the kid's applying to attend the Iowa Writer's Workshop. So it goes.

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2011/07/missouri_school_district_bans.php

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Just another example of those poor christians being persecuted, I guess.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:31 AM
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1. *puts those books on her kids to-read list*
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:35 AM
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2. Good thing these Christians are a tiny minority and have no political power.
:sarcasm:
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:36 AM
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3. I know, Imagine what it would be like if they had an 80% majority or something!!
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:42 AM
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4. Can't wait for the regulars here to blame atheists for this.
Because we are the problem, so I'm told.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:51 AM
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6. Well, it's those pesky MILITANT atheists that ruin for the rest of us!
I mean, why do they want to be treated equally and to not have any religion forced on them. They should just be happy they are tolerated so well.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:30 AM
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8. After reading the link, I gave this a rec, and it went from 5 down to 4. They're here!
But I guess we knew that already...
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 02:00 PM
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12. Of course they are here, they are everywhere!
But recognizing that fact is apparently persecuting them.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 05:52 AM
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14. See, Scroggins isn't really a Christian.
He believes in survival of the fittest books, so he's really a Darwinist and an atheist.

Atheists are banning books! The truth comes out!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:50 AM
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5. ban bibles - they are full of perversion and morally scummy people nt
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 09:56 AM
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7. You really need to be more tolerant, ya know. Stop persecuting Christians like that.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:31 PM
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9. If Vonnegut were still around, he could have written a new introduction to the book about this.
I really did go back to Dresden with Guggenheim money (God love it) in 1967. It looked a lot like Dayton, Ohio, more open spaces than Dayton has. There must be tons of human bone meal in the ground.

I went back there with an old warbuddy, Bernard V. O'Hare, and we made friends with a cab driver, who took us to the slaughterhouse where we had been locked up at night as prisoners of war. His name was Gerhard Müller. He told us that he was a prisoner of the Americans for a while. We asked him how it was to live under Communism, and he said that it was terrible at first, because everybody had to work so hard, and because there wasn't much shelter, or food, or clothing. But things were much better now. He had a pleasant little apartment, and his daughter was getting an excellent education. His mother was incinerated in the Dresden fire-storm. So it goes.

He sent O'Hare a postcard at Christmastime, here is what it said:

"I wish you and your family also as to your friend Merry Christmas and a happy New Year and I hope that we'll meet again in a world of peace and freedom in the taxi cab if the accident will."


It's too bad those high school kids will not get to read Vonnegut.

I haven't read either of the other books; but I'm guessing the kids will be missing a lot in them too.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:22 PM
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10. The book banners are just following their sincerely-held beliefs.
Who are you to tell them they're wrong?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:29 PM
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11. What part of SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE do they not get????
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 02:06 PM
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And there lies the rub. There IS no separation for their religion, only OTHER religions.
What is so hard to understand about that?
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 02:06 PM
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13. And there lies the rub. There IS no separation for their religion, only OTHER religions.
What is so hard to understand about that?
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