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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:32 AM Original message |
Goto a Catholic Worker House and then tell me Christians can't be Liberals |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. I don't know how it is possible to be Christian |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Damn straight - if you are a "true Christian" you are by definition a |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Absolutely. Long-suffering, non-judging, and charity of spirit |
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ChicanoPwr (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. If you believe in Opus Dei |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. fascinating |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. That is my thought exactly... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. It is astonishing |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
3. Chavez, I think the point that keeps getting missed is |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Absolutely. I agree, but clarity of terminology and discourse |
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liberalmuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
4. One of my very good friends... |
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luaneryder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Another example |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Yet - even here- there are those who would write of the Catholic Church |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
5. Speaking just for myself... |
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maumcc1 (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. The Fundamentalists have caused this backlash |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
8. my oldest sister, who is VERY liberal, |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
10. I agree with everybody that Christianity does not have exclusive rights to |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Most of the bashing is directed to the force in play in American politics |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:01 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Agree totally. |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
11. I understand your point, but here is my issue.... |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Your example is valid but doesn't change what I'm saying one bit |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:05 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. And your examples don't change one bit what S/he is saying |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:08 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Please elaborate |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Elaborate on what? |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:12 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. You said you "have seen the damage" - and I'm not saying you haven't |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Good God, Chavez |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Did I deny anything? |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:24 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I just told you |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:27 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I reread it. |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:31 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. I guess you couldn't deduce from that post |
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Beware the Beast Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. So, if you were given the keys to the universe, |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:41 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Socialism |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:41 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. That sounds good to me! |
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Beware the Beast Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:42 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Just about the same. |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Its very easy - I want to know what you've seen so I can understand you. |
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Kathy in Cambridge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 10:20 AM Response to Reply #30 |
48. Let's not forget the Vatican's complicity in the Holocaust |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I see it and acknowledge it and I want t o move forward |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
29. But if you believe there is "one church" as you state below... |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. See - the key to what you're saying is "contribute" - I don't give money |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. And that's fair enough....Again, this isn't a discussion about... |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Please do. And I'll have your back 100% |
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vi5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Thanks... |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Als o I would point out something all liberal Catholics run up against |
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ChicanoPwr (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 10:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
50. How do you go about doing that. |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. It is important to distinguish between 'The Church' as an institution |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. Couple of quick responses: |
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Beware the Beast Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
15. Thank you, CSTT. |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I'm sick and tired of lurking in the shadows watching these things go on |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Thank You Chavez, as a liberal Christian I'm tired of it too! |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
36. All the liberals I know who actually "live it" are Catholics... |
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Razorback_Democrat (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:30 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. There are many liberal protestants that "live it" as well |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 09:38 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I was talking about the people I know...and my eyes are open |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
51. Can you define what exactly is "Christian bashing"? |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. to me it is when it crosses from: |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Well that's going to be a problem. |
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RUDUing2 (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. why not say...I don't believe that a giant turtle holds up the world, to |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:53 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I can respect your right to hold an opinion, |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:28 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I think that what bothers me is when a very small minority of the |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. "It's as if we offend such people simply by existing." |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
53. Thank you! |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 12:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Try to imagine this: |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Let's see here |
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Lefty48197 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
57. Amen |
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