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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 12:45 PM
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Speaking of Faith
A Public Radio Program, "Speaking of Faith" has a great program on the history of doubt. It is available for free download or podcast.

http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/doubt/index.shtml

"Our guest, poet and historian Jennifer Michael Hecht, says that as a scholar she always noticed the "shadow history" of doubt out of the corner of her eye. She shows how non-belief, skepticism, and doubt have paralleled and at times shaped the world's great religious and secular belief systems. She suggests that only in modern time has doubt been narrowly equated with a complete rejection of faith, or a broader sense of mystery."
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 12:58 PM
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1. Without Doubt, Questioning, And Skepticism
we'd have robotic people who all believed the same.

What a boring world that would be.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 01:05 PM
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2. And we'd be traveling
in carts with huge wooden wheels.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 01:10 PM
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3. Does one "speak" of faith?
Faith hope and love these three...

Faith is "knowing" for yourself something deeper than words,
and no skeptic or zealot rocks the keel of ages.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 01:32 PM
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5. The name of the program
is "Speaking of Faith" Like "Meet The Press" or "Face The Nation"

It is a very thoughtful program on the role of Faith in American life.

If you don't like to have your faith examined, don't listen to the program. But if you are not willing to listen to the program, please withhold your criticism.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 01:44 PM
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6. faith is not a television program
It is something one knows personally, and
i examine my faith constantly, thank you...
and i'll criticize what i see as the trivialization of
faith, by taking in to an institutional setting instead of
a private, personal setting where it belongs.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 02:02 PM
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8. Or a RADIO program!
But the program does discuss in detail the role of faith to such people as Epicurus, Job, and Descartes. I don't understand why such a concept is trivial, but I can certainly sympathize with your fear of knowledge.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 02:25 PM
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10. Faith is not a choice
We're freely discussing right. The entire presumption is that faith
and knowledge are intellectual and part of the human ego. Whatever
ego wants to talk and doubt... my faith says the ego and its machinations,
be they my own, or that of others, is inclined to decieve, to paint a world
where the ego is all important, and "its" knowldge, "its" faith, and
"its" understanding are core to the universe. I don't accept this at all.

Then we are living from a book in our heads, of things we "know" to be true,
things we know not to be true, and this book, however wise, i call "fundamentalism".
Faith is not fundamentalism, it is the willingness of the individual not to
worship their ego, to listen to life without imposing trips on it.

Knoweldge of the ego dies with the ego, then it is not permanent, and it is not true knowledge.
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 02:49 PM
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11. That is a subject for another thread.
It has nothing to do with the discussion I started.

The program discusses the impact of faith and doubt NOT "The entire presumption is that faith and knowledge are intellectual and part of the human ego."

You seem to be trying to miss the point. And you are doing it very well.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 02:06 PM
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9. SOF is a America Public Media (Minnesota Public Radio) show
It is more a discussion on the spiritual rather than institutional parts of "faith". It discusses a broad philosophy without going very deep into any specific religious dogma. The programs from ABC Australia Radio National are along a similar line of thinking. If you want more specific religious dogma podcasts, you do not have to search hard to find them of your domination of your choosing.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 01:19 PM
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4. Not even sheep rely entirely on faith.
Any person who can think should have some doubt. Only a fool has blind faith. This does not mean that you reject God. It just means that you do not blindly follow a human. I trust my doctor but not 100 percent. Why then should I trust my preacher 100 percent.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 02:01 PM
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7. ABC Australia also has good religious podcasts
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/

(all links past this one are XML links to subscribe to each podcast (iTunes -> Advanced ->Subscribe to Podcast (paste in link)))
Try these:

The Ark
Rachael Kohn talks to some of the world's leading religious historians and authors about curious moments in religious history.
podcast: Entire program, weekly, updating Sundays at 5pm.
Anticipated File size: 7MB
podcast url: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/feeds/ark.xml

The Religion Report
Your guide to religious affairs: analysis of the events shaping the world of religion and the religious events that shape our world.
podcast: Entire program, weekly, updating Wednesdays at 10.30am.
Anticipated File size: 14MB
podcast url: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/feeds/relrpt.xml

The Spirit of Things
An adventure in religion and spirituality, exploring contemporary values and beliefs as expressed through ritual, art, music, and sacred texts.
podcast: Entire program, weekly, updating Sundays at 8.30pm.
Anticipated File size: 23MB
podcast url: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/feeds/spirit.xml

NPR's Religon podcast is still listenable.
http://www.npr.org/rss/podcast.php?id=1016
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