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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:20 PM
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Doesn't The Book of Revelation say something about a fortress in Babylon?
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 05:24 PM by IanDB1
Particularly one along the Tigris-Euphrates River?

Bush's Baghdad Palace

Nicholas von Hoffman
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Among the many secrets the American government cannot keep, one of its biggest (104 acres) and most expensive ($592 million) is the American Embassy being built in Baghdad. Surrounded by fifteen-foot-thick walls, almost as large as the Vatican on a scale comparable to the Mall of America, to which it seems to have a certain spiritual affinity, this is no simple object to hide.

So you think the Bush Administration is planning on leaving Iraq? Read on.

The Chicago Tribune reports, "Trucks shuttle building materials to and fro. Cranes, at least a dozen of them, punch toward the sky. Concrete structures are beginning to take form. At a time when most Iraqis are enduring blackouts of up to 22 hours a day, the site is floodlighted by night so work can continue around the clock."

It will come as less than a surprise to learn that this project is another Halliburton deal subbed out to an outfit in Kuwait. The Tribune says that "for security reasons, the new embassy is being built entirely by imported labor. The contractor, First Kuwaiti General Trading and Contracting Co., which was linked to human-trafficking allegations by a Chicago Tribune investigation last year, has hired a workforce of 900 mostly Asian workers who live on the site." In a land where half the population is out of work the United States ought to win countless native hearts and minds with this labor policy.

On the other hand, the latest is that the facilities for the 8,000 people scheduled to work in the vice-regal compound will be completed on time next year. Doubtless the cooks, janitors and serving staff attending to the Americans' needs and comforts in this establishment, which is said to exceed in luxury and appointments anything Saddam Hussein built for himself, will not be Iraqis either.

More:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060703/howl



In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome decree :
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea.

--Kubla Khan, by Samuel Taylor Coleridge, circa 1797
http://etext.virginia.edu/stc/Coleridge/poems/Kubla_Khan.html


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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:22 PM
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1. It's not Revelation(s)
Singular as in revelation.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:23 PM
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2. Wrong. I added the extra "S" to my bible yesterday. n/t
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:42 PM
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4. Heh, heh...changing the holy scripture are ya!
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:18 PM
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8. Well, Revelation does seem to be true. We have identified...
...the Antichrist after all.:evilgrin:
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Master Mahon Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:29 PM
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3. The Fall of Babylon
http://www.bartleby.com/108/66/18.html


The Holy Bible: King James Version. 2000.
The Revelation of St. John the Divine 18

1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, Is. 21.9 and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Is. 13.21 · Jer. 50.39

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, Jer. 51.7 and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 08:02 PM
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9. Cage of every unclean and hateful bird...
THIS...



or THIS?



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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:46 PM
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5. Not that I recall
And I am pretty well read on Revelations.
But there are other prophesies about Mesopotamia and Babylon that fit the situation
For instance in Daniel in the vision of the Ram and the Goat, fits perfectly the first gulf war Desert Storm right down to saying the the king of the west would "come at him across the desert and his feet would not touch the ground and totally destroy him" (Saddam's Army)
The references to Babylon in Revelations are in the context of using it as an example of a great city and predicts it's destruction "Alas Babylon that great city, in one short hour it's destruction is accomplished" and this great city is one on the coast because it says that the ships of all nations will stay our to sea for fear of it's burning.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:01 PM
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6. No
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:07 PM
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7. Re-translated: It says "torturess in Babylon" and refers to America's own
Lyynndee England
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-07-07 02:00 AM
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10. A U.S. fortress in Baghdad.
Gordon Lightfoot sings:

"O Babylon you mighty city
Rich in treasure, wide in fame
It shall cause your tower to fall
and make be a pyre of flame..."

--invoking the Old Testament caption on events then and asking into their resonance now.

Not that Don Rumsfeld would give a hoot. "Stuff happens," he responded, after the Iraqi National Museum was looted owing to piss-poor planning and virtually no guarding of the building.

And hey, besides -- "We got those oil wells covered. They're well-protected."

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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 12:10 AM
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11. The "Babylon" referred to in Revelation is believed to be a code word for
Rome, which by that time was beginning to persecute Christians for refusing to offer incense to statues of the emperor.
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