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AmericanErrorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:10 PM
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Pro-Life Comics: Meet Umbert the Unborn (scary)


http://www.umberttheunborn.com/

*forced laugther, followed by the gritting of teeth*

Someone rebut this poor figment!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:13 PM
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1. Scrambled Eggs.... YUM!
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:15 PM
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2. One really BIG nitpick on this
"dependent on my PARENTS for everything"?

If he's unborn, he's dependent on his MOTHER for everything. So what's this shit about PARENTS? The only thing the father is going to provide before his birth is the sperm.

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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:19 PM
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9. True!
Not to man bash, but when my kids were embryos, I was doing ALL the parenting. No "we" about it.
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 09:26 PM
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17. Hear hear!!!
Just after my last child was born, a friend came over and congratulated my husband with, "You did good, man." That was the last straw that day and I exploded! "What do you mean 'he' did good? He did one thing, one night, 9 months ago, and it really wasn't all that memorable!!!"
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:14 AM
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23. Haha right on!
Though I'm a guy, I have to agree with you on that one.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:15 PM
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3. Suggest they do a sequel
showing Umbert born and unable to get adequate health care, etc, because he's a viable human being instead of an embryo....
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:29 PM
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12. Exactly, thank you!
You can't get these people to give a shit about BORN children and babies, and people in general; in fact, they're the first to vote against any kind of program to assist them at all. I'm so tired of that. Remember when Jocelyn Elders said it was time for the so-called "pro-lifers" to "end their love affair with the fetus and start actually supporting children." Couldn't have said it better myself, although she caught eight hundred tons of shit for it.

Oh, and anyone wanna bet that the author(s) of this site and comic is/are all men?
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:28 AM
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29. I bet they're mostly men...
just like most of the anti-choice movement. Did you know about 70% of the anti-choice movement is men?

It pisses me off that few male whiners might be about to force themselves on the majority of females like this. I thought conservatives were about limited government and having the government out of our lives? What a bunch of hypocrites.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:31 PM
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14. OMG that's hillarious
not to mention working at Walmart after graduating college cause their's no other jobs
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 07:46 PM
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24. Same here
It ends at the birth for most of the Religous Right.

The graphic above says "Featured in National Catholic Register". That is a Religous Right Fundie Protastant publication masquerading as a Catholic publication.

Compare the Register with the National Catholic Reporter and you will see night and day. There are no "pro-abortion" pieces there but lots of human rights and social services focus their. Many right wing Catholics don't even consider the issues in the Reporter worth reading, to them it is a "socialist/communist rag". I have butted heads with them on othe boards.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:15 PM
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4. ROFLMAO
All the world's a stage....
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:16 PM
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5. Wow, that looks stupid
And the author came up with enough comics to fill a book?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:20 PM
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10. "please don't kill me!" a'la GWB mocking Karla Faye Tucker
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McKenzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:18 PM
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6. birth control advice for concerned pro-lifers inside
do it standing up with the man standing on a biscuit tin full of nuts and bolts. Once the tin starts rattling the woman kicks the tin away. Works every time. No need to deal with the abortion issue...
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alvis Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:18 PM
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7. Hi I'm Umbert, I'm hung
Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 07:19 PM by alvis
oh wait, that's the umbilical cord...

Last month, I was like the author of this, I didn't have a brain!
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Menshevik Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:19 PM
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8. Ummmm
I'll stick to Boondocks, thanks.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:21 PM
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11. .......
..............
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Fuckin' stupid.
Jesus tap dancing christ...
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:29 PM
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13. Perhaps we should bring in Cletus the fetus
Cletus the fetus goes to war for a military abortion
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Lenape85 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:39 PM
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15. http://www.chick.com
This is just plain worse
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Red_Viking Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 07:52 PM
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16. Uh, the author is a man, naturally.
And the fetus is male, naturally. I assume. Umbert hardly sounds like a girl's name.

What f*cking planet am I on?

My dad, who is a lifelong Dem but not sure how he feels about choice, called me last week to complain about a Sunday news show featuring four ministers all arguing about abortion...and not a woman among them.

What the heck, we gals will be chattel again soon anyway. Welcome to the American Taliban.

RV
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rebecca_herman Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 09:48 PM
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18. bleh
Wow... that's just... cheesy and and unrealistic and dumb...
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:47 PM
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19. This seems like....
a website created as a joke.
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rebecca_herman Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:54 PM
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21. unfortunatley it's real
It's real. I googled it. Ugh.
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Jackie97 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:26 AM
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28. OMG!
How can anti-choicers be taken seriously?
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seaj11 Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 08:27 PM
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20. Eww. (Shudder.)
Talking fetus with an umbilical cord begging for his rights...bad combination!
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seaj11 Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 02:16 PM
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31. Just recently
I was serving for dinner theatre at a local Catholic church, and they had us servers wait in a Sunday school room. On the wall several Umbert cartoons were posted. My friends and I had a good laugh over them.
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 12:38 AM
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22. Umbert, I'm so sorry that
you'll be born to a mother that has to work two jobs to support you and your older brother... that you'll be eating hamburger helper without the hamburger again tonight because her electric bill just jumped again (that's the third time they've raised the rates this year!) and you need a new pair of shoes. Oh, and sorry that your school lunch program was cut, so that thanks to that second job, your mom's income is just too high. Yeah, and sorry about that no money for college thing, but you know, the military is hiring for cannon fodder and you're perfectly qualified. And I'm sorry that you got your girlfriend pregnant- too bad about that abstinence only program that didn't work out very well for you two, huh. Guess you're really glad that Abortion isn't a legal option for her, huh.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 03:31 AM
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25. Whoa.
Fruity.
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Undercover Owl Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 09:26 PM
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26. OMG it's so tasteless!
Imagine the humor of Umbert getting suctioned at the clinic! HARDEHAR!
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oddmanout Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 10:16 AM
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27. Disturbing!
I don't believe how repugnant this is..................



:puke:
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IrishDemocrat Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 02:45 PM
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30. I agree
This is quite disgusting. The Catholic church is quite hypocritical. They seem to care less about existing life, but will endorse this disgusting garbage.
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IrishDemocrat Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 04:36 AM
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32. Response E-mail to the site creator
Thank you for your letter and expression of views concerning my website.Allow me to address your concerns one at a time.

<quoted from my e-mail>
Your created website "Umbert the Unborn" is quite a disgusting piece of propaganda.<quote>

I don't see how you can label Umbert disgusting. What is so disgusting about a cute unborn baby with hopes, dreams and aspirations of his own. Fanciful perhaps, but disgusting? It doesn't quite fit the definition of disgust. Yes, it is propaganda if by that you mean I am attempting to persuade readers to a certain point of view. You being pro-choice should recognize propaganda when you see it. Planned Parenthood and NARAL certainly put out their share of it.

<quote>
The fact that you are overhumanizing an unborn fetus and making difficult decisions in people's lives into a sickening comic strip shows your maturity and lack of knowledge on the issue.
<quote>

How can you overhumanize a human being? You can certainly dehumanize one, as pro-choicers have done for the last 30+ years by calling an unborn child a blob of unviable tissue. But any ninth grade biology student knows that at the moment of conception, a unique and distinct human life begins. HUMAN LIFE. How does my portrayal of Umbert give him too much humanity? I think what you mean is too much humanity for your comfort. It must bother you greatly to even think of something you've advocated killing could possibly be human at all. Yet you and I both know that it is. As for my maturity and knowledge, I am 50 years old and have studied this issue since a group of Supreme Court justices took it upon themselves to become legislators and rule that Americans in the womb have no right to life if the mother chooses to kill it. You are the first person to ever claim to be sickened by the comic strip, which implies that you actually read it. It reminds me of the old joke, "Doctor, it hurts when I do that." The Doctor replies,"Then don't do that!" If reading Umbert the Unborn causes you extreme bouts of nausea, I recommend you discontinue use. What I really think you're suffering from are pangs of guilt. Perhaps I should print a warning label on my strips. DANGER: READING THIS COMIC STRIP MAY CAUSE NAUSEA IN PRO-ABORTION READERS AS WELL AS SEVERE PAIN IN THE CONSCIENCE. IF SYMPTOMS PERSIST, SEE YOUR PRIEST OR SPIRITUAL ADVISOR. (Hey, thanks for the idea, that would make a great strip.)

<quote>
I'm not requesting you take the website down, but for the Catholic church to endorse this lowers my opinion of them even greater than it already is after thrashing John Kerry and decent pro-choice Catholic Democratic politicians at every turn. I am a pro-choice Catholic Democrat and made the conscientious decision to be so after looking at the many issues that go into this decision.
<quote>

Why would your opinion of the Church be lowered by its support of something that conforms to its teaching? Is your opinion of the American Cancer Society lowered when it supports anti-smoking advertising? The Catholic Church is PRO-LIFE and teaches the respect for all human life from conception to natural death. As for these so-called "decent pro-choice Catholic democrats," can you please tell the difference between a decent pro-choice Catholic democrat and an indecent one? Isn't pro-choice Catholic an oxymoron? I guess you are one of these designer catholics who refashion the Church in their own images to conform to what liberals are wearing these days. You have the right to conscientiously decide your position on any issue you choose, (God gave us free will), but do you have the right to call that position Catholic? Unless you are the Pope or a member of the Magisterium, I don't see where you have that authority. Or do you propose we put the Church's position on moral issues to a vote?

Patrick, my purpose in creating Umbert the Unborn is to finally give a voice to a forgotten member of our society and, by doing so changing the hearts and minds of people on this important issue. I did not storm into the privacy of your home with this message and force you to listen to it, you chose to hear it and you find that it bothers you. That's a great starting point to rethinking your position on the abortion issue. I'll tell you what, prove to me scientifically and from Natural Law that the unborn child is not a real human being and I'll never draw another Umbert cartoon. Until you do, I intend to continue Umbert's message of Life until every child's God-given right to Life is acknowledged and protected by humankind in whose care God entrusted these precious unborn persons.

I bear you no ill will for expressing your feelings about my work. On the contrary, I respect your right to disagree and I will pray that God touches your heart and inspires you to use that passionate voice of yours in the defense of His Creation. God's blessing and peace be upon you, Patrick.

Respectfully,
Your friend For "Life,"
Gary Cangemi

Comment:

Well, his response was well written. However, he has one nerve calling me a "designer Catholic" and thinks it's humorous regarding making pro-choicers feel sick to our stomachs like many of us are.
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rebecca_herman Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:17 PM
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33. Bleh
I don't think they honestly CARE, if there was proof the embryo/fetus wasn't a living, they'd just ignore it. Even if you use the most basic definition, heartbeat, it's not alive the first month. If you use the standards for determining brain death, it's "brain dead" for quite a while. And they just don't care.
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IrishDemocrat Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 03:22 PM
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34. You have a point
To them it's just morals and wanting to intervene in people's bedrooms.
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oddmanout Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 03:45 PM
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35. And lets not forget....
Subjugating women!
After all they need some big strong man to tell them their place in case they get uppity! This IS for their own good after all.........
Bushy and his Friends would love to bring out the stakes and fan the flames of a new witch-hunt. Burn the women who DARE to do what they feel they need to do as an example to others.


:dem: :dem: :dem: :dem:
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rebecca_herman Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 12:33 AM
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36. oops typo
I mean living human not living, but the editing period expired. But I'm sure everyone knows what I meant.

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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 12:13 PM
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37. Where is
Billy the Blastoplast, or Izzy the Zygote, or even Ebbie the Embyro? WHY? Because they don't WANT anybody to see them. Because they don't look like cute little NEBORN INFANTS.
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