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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:20 PM Original message |
Prof denied Tenure for failing too many Students |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. I never agreed with the philosphy, that at the college level |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Quite agreed |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. both are adults, and it is both the student's job to learn and the instructor's job to teach. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. There are times when the professor makes that impossible |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-01-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. How can a professor teach students who don't attend class? |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. But attendance is the only reason given for failing |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 06:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
11. When, exactly, does the student have any responsibility in this process? |
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CRK7376 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. HEAR, HEAR! |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. But at the college level |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I don't disagree with that. |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-23-08 03:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
35. Most colleges have some sort of 'student evaluation' ... |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-16-08 07:56 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. When they reach an "age of responsibility". |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I disagree. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. On the other hand |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. I don't find this story surprising. I quit teaching college in part |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. In college I was once helped to get an A by just showing up. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-29-08 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. When I was getting my nursing degree |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-03-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. As an educator |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. Same for me in nursing school |
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Help_I_Live_In_Idaho (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-02-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
10. Social Promotion - A Salve for Social Inequity |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. As a former college professor, I have to agree |
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fortyfeetunder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-04-08 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
17. Another twist to this... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-04-08 05:03 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. what makes you think people who refuse to attend class |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-12-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. There's the problem right there |
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SomeGuyInEagan (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Midterm grades |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-13-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I have no problem with that requirement |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-18-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
24. I had a teacher like that |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-19-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. there isn't a thing in that article to suggest this teacher was remotely like that |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. You're right! I had posted this reply here instead of in my livejournal |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. No reason to be embarrassed, I have a couple of colleagues like the prof you describe but most of us |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I would have directed my complaint to the dean, |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. In too many colleges department heads, deans, and presidents have little influence on what a prof |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. That's why I wouldn't have stopped with the dean. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-21-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I agree public pressure is the best way to deal with such abuses. I like the idea of using the |
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Heddi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-22-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. One of my classmates did complain |
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