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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:30 PM
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Student At Grove City, PA chrisTian College Appeals Suspension Over Appearance In Gay Porn
A student at a Christian college in Pennsylvania is fighting his school for suspending him because he's done gay porn.

Twenty-two-year-old John Gechter, of Philadelphia, was suspended for one year pending appeal from Grove City College after a student saw him last month in a video posted online. Gechter is appealing the suspension and says he may sue claiming that the gay porn job isn't any of the school's business, especially since he performed using the name "Vincent DeSalvo." Gechter says he used his porn income to pay for his schooling. School officials say Gechter is suspended because Gechter was well aware his porn involvement "exhibited behavior contrary to the values" of the school about 50 miles north of Pittsburgh.

And what about the fuckwit fellow student who narced him out? What was HE doing watching gay porn?

(Via - Dan Savage, who has a NSFW screenshot) http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/05/07/what-were-the-odds

More:
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2009/05/student-at-christian-college-appeals.html



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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:34 PM
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1. His parents probably made him go to Grove City, hoping to "cure" him.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:35 PM
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2. If everybody who put themselves through college working "questionable" jobs was suspended...
Edited on Thu May-07-09 12:36 PM by MercutioATC
...I'd know a lot of very intelligent women who wouldn't have graduated.

That said, if somebody chooses to attend a private religious college, they're bound by that institution's rules.

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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:36 PM
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3. At Grove City College, Intelligent Design is okay, but homosexuality is not
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Gonzalez_(astronomer)

Anyone who's ever seen any of the material put out by The Discovery Institute knows that it's far more offensive than any gay porn you're likely to stumble across.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:36 PM
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4. It's a private school,
it can enforce its rules any way it wants, provided it's not contrary to public policy.

He knew the rules well enough to use an alias.

Tough, but the kid can't have it both ways.

I HATE when I have to defend schools like this, dammit .............................
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:39 PM
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8. I wonder if there's a specific policy against it, or if it's part of a nebulous "morals clause"
I mean, acting "contrary to the values of the institution" is pretty vague.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:04 PM
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14. And pretty smart.................
That kind of oblique reference means they can decide, after the fact, what's acceptable and what isn't.

See what a smart lawyer can come up with?

That clause is standard at places like Bob Jones, Liberty, most, if not all, fundamental Christian institutions ..............................
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:12 PM
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20. Yeah, private college means they can pull bullshit like that.
Doesn't make it any less bullshitty. But they can. :(
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:37 PM
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5. The message? Choose violence, it's not victimless?
If you look at the whole picture, what you see is that people who serve in the military or police force aren't thrown out. That's in spite of the fact that the military is all about violence and the police violently defend bankster usury and all that.

They go after gay people because they can. Does it not say that violence is the way? Of course lovers will never go that way because it's the thing that's really disgusting. Our socity is warped around violence, which it loves. America hates love. It shows.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:38 PM
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6. I had a roomie who was a transfer from Grove City College
:scared:

That lasted a semester and the Dean of Students was nice enough to force her out of my room.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 12:39 PM
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7. Come on. You cant be going to a religious school and doing porn.
Thats just common sense. Of COURSE they're going to suspend you. WTF did he think? :shrug:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 01:15 PM
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9. I guess his "The devil made me do it" excuse didn't work? nt
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:14 PM
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15. No, silly. That only works for priests.
:P
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 04:26 PM
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17. It always worked for Geraldine (Flip Wilson)!!!!
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 01:27 PM
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12. You must not know fundies then
Edited on Thu May-07-09 01:29 PM by Chovexani
If this kid was doing straight porn we wouldn't even have heard about it, they'd have suspended him, made him get pastoral counseling and they'd "pray with him" and shit. But he wouldn't have been thrown out. Same goes if he'd have gotten busted with alcohol or any of the other "morals" offenses. That's how these outfits work. Especially if he was fortunate enough to be a PK, but sadly he was an anonymous nobody.

Nothing is unforgivable to these fuckwits as long as you're straight.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 01:56 PM
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13. He wasnt thrown out though...
Just suspended. And I kinda think they'd view drinking booze a little less harshly than porn. The question is... would they suspension been less harsh if he werent gay? Probably.

The kid really should have known better though. I'd love to know what happened to the kid that ratted.
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gccrebel Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:39 PM
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18. kinda disagree
Yes, if this kid was doing straight porn the ACLU wouldn't have plastered this all over the media, but honestly the outcome wouldn't have been different. I hate to admit this, seeing that I disagree with a lot of things that the school government does here and the rules that it forces its students to follow, but a couple days after this one of the few genuinely slutty girls here (Martha Hanley) got caught having sex with some loser on a random car in a parking lot and those two people are actually getting punished more severely than Gechter is. By the way, I know this stuff because I go here. If anyone has questions I know the kid and can answer them for you. Oh yeah, he's the dude from the hugely popular My Transformation video on Youtube.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 10:15 AM
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22. Wow
Nice attitude toward women. Calling someone a gen-U-ine slut and then publishing her name on an internet forum. What an outstanding young christian you are!
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 01:19 PM
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10. Hes a good looking kid - I hope he gets out of the School for his own good
and out of porn too.

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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 01:23 PM
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11. I wonder what this school is doing for FA
So that students don't have to support themselves through porn?

Oh that's right, nothing. Because "Christian" schools don't give a shit about anyone who isn't rich.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:22 PM
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16. what about the kid WATCHING? nt
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gccrebel Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 09:43 PM
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19. the kid who turned him in
no one knows who found it because it blew up so fast. pretty much everyone's seen the pictures and they're not going to punish the entire campus. but yeah, the kid who turned him in is the president of the student government association. his argument was that if the teachers found out that he knew and didn't turn him in he'd get in trouble. personally i think he's a pretentious asshole dousche fuck peice of cum guzzling dumpster shit but who am i to judge. and no he didn't get in trouble, if anything it put him in a better place with faculty.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 10:13 AM
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21. Huh
That's a real school?

How do these pathetic excuses for higher education attract students is the real head-scratcher. You're better off getting an AA degree from your local CC if a job at the end is the point to the exercise.
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 09:20 PM
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23. As a GCC grad and liberal
If you weren't "one of them," (i.e. a liberal Democrat, liked to party, believed in liberal interpretations of Christianity, gay/lesbian, a feminist, so forth and so on), then you knew that it was best for you to simply shut up, fly low under the radar and do your best to make them think you were one of them. It may have it's fair share of wingnuts, but it is a pretty good school for a pretty good price...so I certainly wasn't the only liberal there. And most of my fellow liberal Democrats, feminists, liberal Christians, GLBT supporters (or even GLBT people...gasp!) and Obama supporters knew better to do the same. This guy tried that routine but unfortunately got caught.
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