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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 04:23 PM
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Manchester Hotel's Boycott is still on ($7 million+ lost so far and counting!)
Edited on Fri May-08-09 04:25 PM by FreeState
Repost from email (asked to post and spread it Im posting in its entirety since I cant find it online)

Statements by Fred Karger and Brigette Browning regarding Today’s Proposal from Doug Manchester’s re our Manchester Hotel's Boycott

Statement by Fred Karger, founder, Californians Against Hate;

On July 18, 2008 we partnered with many LGBT individuals and organizations and Unite Here Local 30, to call for a boycott of Doug Manchester’s two San Diego hotels; the Manchester Grand Hyatt Hotel and the Grand del Mar Hotel. This was done to let the world know that Doug Manchester gave $125,000 to end gay marriage in California.

Over the past 10 months, the boycott has been very successful. Countless groups and individuals have canceled well over 100,000 room-nights. Over 12 large meetings and conventions have left the hotel. Many others have stopped eating and drinking at his boycotted properties. At the Manchester Grand Hyatt alone, after just 4 months they said that they had lost $2.4 million. Now they are saying that over $7 million has been lost from the boycott. It's probably much higher.

Recently the Metropolitan News-Enterprise reported that the 2,000 + attorney members of the American Association of Justice are leaving the Manchester Grand Hyatt in San Diego and instead taking their annual 2009 convention to San Francisco.

Doug Manchester approached us last summer, just 10 days after we called the boycott, with an offer to settle. That offer did not address any labor issues on behalf of our boycott partner, Unite Here Local 30, and we rejected his offer then and we reject his offer today. He is clearly trying to buy his way out of this, and it will not work.

Two months ago Mr. Manchester hired well known gay PR agent Howard Bragman from Los Angeles to try and give him PR advice to stop the hemorrhaging of business at his hotels. Howard Bragman appears to have given Mr. Manchester bad advice. An end to such a long and emotional boycott should not be first offered in the public square. Mr. Manchester is a very successful businessman, and I am sure he has been involved in lots of negotiations. He knows that this is not the way business is done.

Messrs. Manchester and Bragman are attempting to buy their way out of the boycott and divide the LGBT community, and that will not work. Their proposal is a real slap in the face to the gay community and to all fair minded people who believe in equality and support full civil rights for all gays and lesbians. Their feeble attempt to give free hotel rooms and services to try and lure people back to the Manchester Grand Hyatt and make them cross the union picket line is a dumb idea that will fail.

If Mr. Manchester is truly serious about ending the boycott, I am sure that we along with our boycott partners would be willing to sit down with him and listen to his proposal.

Californians Against Hate has called for national boycotts of four of the largest contributors to last year’s Yes on Proposition 8 campaign. The Manchester Hotels boycott was the first. Two of the boycotts were settled within weeks of calling them when the companies approached us directly and we met and negotiated a settlement.

Only our Boycott of Manchester Hotels and the Boycott of A-1 Self Storage remain. San Diego based A-1 Self Storage owner Terry Caster and his family gave $793,000 to Prop. 8 to take away marriage from millions of Californians. Caster told the San Diego Union-Tribune one year ago that marriage equality threatens society. "Without solid marriage, you are going to have a sick society," he said. Caster encouraged his friend Doug Manchester to give his $125,000 to the campaign, the newspaper reported.


Statement by Brigette Browning, President of UNITE HERE Local 30 in response to Doug Manchester’s ‘apology’

Contact: Dan Rottenstreich – Unite Here! Local 30 619-516-3737 x 306

Today we learned that Doug Manchester, owner of the boycotted Manchester Hyatt hotel, attempted to apologize for his $125,000 contribution that qualified Proposition 8 for the ballot last year. As part of his apology, he is contributing money and donating hotel services to undisclosed LGBT groups. I have not heard directly from Mr. Manchester, but if these reports are accurate, this is not an adequate response. Our boycott is not over.

Mr. Manchester’s money helped qualify and pass Proposition 8 last November. An apology is too little, too late from Mr. Manchester who consistently spoke in favor of Proposition 8 throughout the campaign. Further, his statement did not address the lack of job security and onerous housekeeper workload at the Manchester Hyatt that motivated the union to boycott the hotel in the first place.

We are happy to engage in a conversation about what it would take to end the boycott. However, that conversation can only be had if Mr. Manchester agrees to sit down with hotel workers and the gay community and meaningfully addresses both our community’s issues. We are ready.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 05:55 PM
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1. Rah, rah, ree! Kick 'em in the knee! Rah, Rah, rass! Kick 'em in the
POCKETBOOK!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 06:12 PM
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2. Sanctimonious bastards. Let 'em sweat.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 01:28 AM
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3. K&R
:kick:
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 03:29 AM
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4. $793000 for hate $125000?
Man, these is some serious messed up people. And LOUSY buisnessmen! Spend over a million dollars 'tween the 2, to piss off potential customers in retail businesses?

Mr. Karger, and all your friends - please keep telling us about idiots like these. I do not like patronizing service businesses run by hateful morons, because the service is lousy! Mr. Manchester's overworked staff is not gonna like my group's meeting, and I garon-dam-tee that Mr. Caster's minions are miserable to deal with because it's all they know.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 02:13 PM
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5. As I said back when this first became public....
Any moran in the hospitality industry who hates on "Teh Gays" won't be in the hospitality industry for long. It's time for that "Under New Ownership/Management" sign - while you can still get a decent price for the properties.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 05:48 PM
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6. Boo Hoo.
When he goes bankrupt, I suppose he'll be lined up for Fox news like Miss ex-stripper California.
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kaiwai Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 09:49 AM
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7. hmm
If they did that - my reply is to point to Milton Friedman who pointed to grass root societal pressure rather than legislation as the best way to change peoples opinions.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:20 PM
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8. Now THIS is my kind of war
You're in the hospitality industry and you don't get that dollars are green, regardless of who spends them.

This is an example of a stupid human who believed that gays are poor hair burners and waiters who couldn't afford to stay at a Hyatt anyway, not lawyers, doctors, and CEO's, and moreover, friends of hairburners and waiters.

Snork.




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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 03:39 PM
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9. $793,000 what a curious figure
Wouldn't you think it would be round? $125,000 is rather odd too, though not as odd as $793,000.

It's almost like it went for something specific. In any event, it's not pocket change to many people. Just looking around, it's about 10% of Caster's claimed annual income. You don't suppose he made a deal to "tithe" to the Prop 8 instead of directly to the LDS?
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:06 PM
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10. Hes Catholic not LDS n/t
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:17 PM
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11. Damn. So much for that theory.
The increments get odder though. $18,200 for a couple of family members, like each kid.

TERRY CASTER SAN DIEGO CA - CASTER FAMILY ENTERPRISES CEO 445,000
CRAIG CASTER EL CAJON CA - FAMILY DISCIPLESHIP MINISTRY PASTOR 19,200
CANDICE CASTER EL CAJON CA - NOT EMPLOYED 18,200
BARBARA CASTER EL CAJON CA N/A NOT EMPLOYED 18,200
NICK CASTER EL CAJON CA FAMILY DISCIPLESHIP MINISTRIES MANAGER 18,200
CHRISTINA CASTER EL CAJON CA N/A ACTRESS 18,200
CHA CHA CASTER EL CAJON CA N/A NOT EMPLOYED 18,200
JUSTIN CASTER EL CAJON CA N/A ACTOR 18,200

You don't suppose it's some kind of numerology thing, do you?
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-11-09 04:38 PM
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12. Actually I believe all that money was from one person donated in others names
which is a no no but very hard to prove. Most likely Terry donated the rest and just divided the amount evenly plus what ever the individual wanted to donate (thus the 19,200 for one and 18,200 for the rest).

All of the above also made multiple donations throughout the campaign.
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