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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 03:20 PM
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FRC: Census Bureau encouraging LGBT respondents to violate the law
SPRIGG: Marriage law doesn't count at Census Bureau

Obama administration scofflaws put personal agenda first

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Here is exactly what DOMA says about the federal government's definition of marriage: "In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word 'marriage' means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word 'spouse' refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife."

The Census Bureau is ignoring this law. In a publication in March, the bureau said, "The 2010 Census will be the first to report counts of both same-sex partners and same-sex spouses." But there is no such thing as a "same-sex spouse" under federal law. The publication goes on to say, "Same-sex couples who are married, or consider themselves to be spouses, can identify one other adult as a 'husband or wife.' " However, the Census Bureau is forbidden to refer to same-sex couples as "married" or to identify a same-sex partner as a "husband or wife." The language of DOMA is very explicit on all these points.

Mr. Olson is wrong about "releasing any information about same-sex couples." The 2000 census released very interesting information about same-sex couples - classifying them as "unmarried partners." That's what the Census Bureau should say in its instructions: "Federal law does not recognize same-sex 'marriages,' so same-sex couples must mark the box that says 'unmarried partners.' "
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The "new administration" has no power to unilaterally "reverse" statutory law. In fact, it is encouraging LGBT respondents to violate the law. Under the United States Code, anyone who "willfully gives any answer that is false" on the census form can be fined up to $500. While prosecution of same-sex couples who call themselves married is highly unlikely, it is shocking that the Census Bureau is encouraging such behavior - even by people who are not legally married anywhere but merely "consider themselves to be spouses."
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Peter Sprigg is a senior fellow for policy studies at the Family Research Council.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 03:57 PM
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1. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. It enables idiots to be half right.
Technically under DOMA it's not legal for the Census Bureau to do what they're doing. However, that doesn't mean same-sex couples who fill out the form are "violating federal law" or any nonsense like that. You can't be charged with violating DOMA; it's not like lying on your taxes or something. To say otherwise is ridiculous.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 04:51 PM
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2. Fuck 'em. I don't recognize their marriages either.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 07:00 PM
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4. Right, marriage of hateful RWers is unnatural and bad for children.
It's Adam and Eve or Amanda and Eve or Adam and Steve, NOT Nazi and Teabagger!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 06:57 PM
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3. FRC? I'll assume it's a lie.
Anyway, in a few jurisdictions, same sex couples can be lawfully married.
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JulieKatz Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 09:11 PM
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5. Either Violate Federal DOMA Law or Perjure Oneself
Yes, I am legally married. I have the certificate to prove it. It is public record in the state of Iowa.

If I say I am not married I am making a false statement to the government and could therefore be prosecuted. It's a catch 22 that is just one of many those of us in legal marriage limbo face.

Only in America.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 07:52 AM
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7. +1
:thumbsup:

If the law requires you to lie, then that is a good indication that it is an unjust law.
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plantwomyn Donating Member (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 10:28 PM
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6. Mr. Sprigg
We who are married would be giving false answers if we checked the "unmarried partner" box. I don't agree with the "consider themselves to be spouses" thing though. Either you are or you are not legally married. That's the whole point of marriage equality.
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:01 AM
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8. The FRC Can Just Go Fuck Itself!
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 11:03 AM by RetiredTrotskyite
I have the marriage certificate from Canada to prove that my spouse and I are legally married. I don't give a damn if these teabagger jackasses accept it or not. I am going to put down "married" on the Census Form and the FRC doesn't like it, it can just go fuck itself up the the ass with a splintery flagpole! How DARE these people try to judge who is married and who is not?!
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