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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 04:51 PM Original message |
Advocate: Murphy 'Blindsided' by Gates, Presses On (with DADT repeal) |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. For those who keep parroting "Get mad at Congress, not Obama" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Good for Rep. Murphy, but unfortunately he doesn't represent the entire Congress. |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. "it is not unlikely that the WH is encouraging him to do so behind the scenes" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It won't be the first time the WH encourages a supporter in Congress behind the scenes on an issue. |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. The WH isn't helping Rep Murphy GET the votes |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. By saying they want DADT repealed via Congress, they did indeed help Rep. Murphy. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. The only thing going on behind the scenes is the WH using Gates for cover for its heel-dragging |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. And you know this because you are privy to all that goes on at the WH? |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I think the situation speaks for itself. If Obama wanted action on DADT there'd BE action on DADT. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. How so? The presidency is not a dictatorship. We're not talking Hugo Chavez here. |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. So much for the presidential candidate's fierce advocacy of gay rights! Now that he's actually |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. lol! You haven't answered my question. n/t |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Yes, I did. I agreed with you that Obama is powerless. He's just a figurehead who takes his orders |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. You contradict yourself so glibly. How can anyone take you seriously? |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Awww, I'm just heartbroken. |
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Smashcut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Ah, the "powerless president" gambit |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. That's a false interpretation; President Obama is neither all-powerful nor is he powerless. |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I disagree... |
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Teka (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. You really have no clue, do you? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. And you have all the answers, I suppose? Why don't you run for President and show us how it's done? |
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Teka (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Easy |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. It's always "easy" for keyboard Presidents who have zero responsibility. Reality is tougher. n/t |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. what "responsibility" might account for |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Why don't you ask the Congressman who haven't signed onto Murphy's bill that question? |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Why don't you make something up? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Is that what you call an opinion? You seem to offer plenty of them yourself. n/t |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I didn't say to pull something out of your ass |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Why should I? This entire thread has been full of 100% subjective opinions, including yours. n/t |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. There's a difference |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. No, there isn't. Splitting hairs won't get you anywhere with me. But nice try, anyway. n/t |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. You nailed it |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Wrong. n/t |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. OK, fine.... |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. and yet, YOU pretend that you can penetrate |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. When did I do that, dear? I simply offered possible scenarios. |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Your alternative isn't convincing, however. |
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TriMera (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. What it really boils down to |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. What it really boils down to |
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TriMera (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. And that's your opinion... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. And you're entitled to your opinion, too. n/t |
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TriMera (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Just reread your comment... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. You disagree with me. I disagree with you. Got it. n/t |
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TriMera (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. In other words sit down and shut up. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. WTF? You did misunderstand. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Our agenda is equal rights and full citizenship |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Spare me the implied insult you conveniently tacked below your subject line. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. You're not sorry about anything |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 10:11 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. You're wrong. I have always felt this way and have said so before many times. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Just a random few |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-03-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. +7 |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-05-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. so you're straight? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-06-10 08:17 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. And he's long been one of the first to arrive |
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