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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 02:59 PM
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Good thing George Washington didn't bar gays from serving in his army...
Edited on Thu May-06-10 03:00 PM by theHandpuppet
... or we might still be saluting the Union Jack.

Friedrich Wilhelm Augustin Ludolf Gerhard (Frederick William Augustus Henry Ferdinand) von Steuben also referred to as the Baron von Steuben,<1> (September 17, 1730 – November 28, 1794) was a Prussian homosexual aristocrat and military officer who served as inspector general and Major general of the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War. He is credited with teaching the Continental Army the essentials of military drill and discipline, helping to guide it to victory. He wrote the Revolutionary War Drill Manual, the book that became the standard United States drill manual until the War of 1812, and served as General George Washington's chief of staff in the final years of the war.

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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 03:11 PM
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1. He's the guy who taught our Army how to be an army.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:07 PM
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12. the sacred band, alexander and his army, they didn't care.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 03:11 PM
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2. Maybe George told the Baron the rule was bitten Sie nicht sagen nicht
Edited on Thu May-06-10 03:11 PM by DebbieCDC
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 03:14 PM
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3. i didn't know this! i WILL spread this word, tho'. eom
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 09:53 PM
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8. I just found out that out today.
I was watching "The Story of Us" on The History Channel On-Demand this afternoon, and they mentioned him.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 03:40 PM
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4. So Steubenville, OH is named after a gay, German officer...
Edited on Thu May-06-10 03:42 PM by Deep13
...who was good at training the soldiers to drill? Who knew? I mean, I've heard of him, but I didn't know he was that involved.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 04:40 PM
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5. Why is "homosexual" in the first 3 words describing him?
"Prussian homosexual aristocrat"

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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 05:42 PM
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6. Why not? nt
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Meeker Morgan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 06:50 PM
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7. OTOH, if he'd been caught ...
It could be a death penalty offense, just like in the British army.

Sure people got away with it, but don't forget that little detail.

We've come a long long way. Let's keep in mind just where our predecessors were as we continue to push forward.

That's how bad it could get without eternal vigilance.
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MarshalltheIrish Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-06-10 10:08 PM
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9. Oh yes
Now I've got ammo for every time one of my homophobic friends says gays shouldn't serve in the military.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 07:57 AM
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10. they forget some of us have an aptitude for fighting
that's what they're really scared of. Having to re-address their stereotypes while their asses are being kicked into a new color.

big old sissy men scared of us sweet little gay boys turning out to be manlier men then they are. Damn I am spoiling for a fight today.

Bring me Hans Solo and the Wookie!!!!!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:36 PM
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11. K&R
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