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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:35 PM
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Let the kids rot in foster care
It's amazing when the bigots try to defend their immoral positions and they actually reinforce the fact that they have no moral compass in their own words.

Ed Vitagliano's AgapePress column, Why Mother-Father Couples Are Superior to Same-Sex Couples When It Comes to Adoption, wastes plenty of space on the old hoary argument that kids raised in same-sex households are more likely to "drift towards the sexual orientation of their homosexual 'parents'."

That's laughable BS, but what makes Vitagliano's piece completely insane is his assertion that social conservatives are really thinking that society is best served by preventing the adoption of kids -- ones most straight couples do not want -- by gays. At the very same time, he tries to defend how this position doesn't mean bible-beaters would prefer kids going from foster home to foster home.

The knobend effectively makes the case that yes, the bigots do want kids languishing out there -- because "kids deserve the best, and a mom and a dad best fit the bill" -- no matter that there aren't enough of those moms and dads stepping up to adopt.

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Link: http://www.pamspaulding.com/weblog/2006/06/let-kids-rot-in-foster-care.html
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:38 PM
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1. They hate the truth don't they...they never ever use
statistics do they? And they never foster do they....if they do they are very particular about who they foster....


I am just sick of them all....
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:59 PM
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2. I agree with you completely.
There are so many children that don't have parents that desperately want and need to be adopted. And there are plenty of good and loving people out there, people that just happen to be gay, that desperately want and need to adopt them. I just don't understand why they can't be paired up. There is no logical reason to prevent that.

What difference does it make if a child has two parents that are of the same gender? As long as the parents provide the child with an environment where their needs are met, their creativity is fostered, they feel loved and supported, they are taught the value of knowledge and lifetime learning, and there is an environment of mutual respect, then the gender of the parents is absolutely irrelevant.

And the argument that children with gay parents will turn out gay is just silly and absurd. I'm gay and I have two heterosexual parents, and the vast majority of my gay friends can say the exact same thing.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:12 PM
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8. They dont' care about the children.....they never have and they
never will.....


You are right....it doesn't matter what the gender of the parents are as long as the kids feel loved and learn and lead full lives.
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popculture Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:06 PM
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3. adoption rights
I've gotten into a fairly heated debate about the right for a gay couple to adopt with my boyfriend a few months ago. He's a tad to the right compared to my liberal ways...but we were talking about why conservatives are so afraid of gay adoption...it's precisely the argument that you illuminate. Extremely laughable indeed. What I don't understand is how people can actually take conservatives seriously, considering how contradictory they are when it comes to family values and child development. Shouldn't the child be brought up in a LOVING, providing, comforting household. I know plenty of friends who are products from a single parent household. Guess there's extreme corruption there! Awful--the whole anti gay sentiment is both irritating and quite scary...considering the lengths people will go to in order to create a rhetoric of hate and bigotry.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:15 PM
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4. You are so right!
It is the nature of the environment at home (whether there is love, nurturing, support, understanding, respect, etc.) that is important, not the gender of the parents. Letting a gay couple (or single person) adopt a child that they want and are able to care for is a much better solution than having the child grow up in the foster care system.

Thank you for your post, and welcome to DU! :hi:
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:39 PM
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5. Whenever they say "it is best for kids to" I just want to smack them
Do they not realize these kids are already NOT in the best situation.

I agree. It is best for kids to be raised by their birth mother and birth father together... In a safe, loving home, surrounded by family and friends for support.... in a safe neighborhood...with plenty of food and clothing to meet their needs....with the best possible education available to them...with access to wrold class health care...in a world free from environmental damage... and the list goes on.

But no one lives in this little fairy tale land. And children in foster care and adoption certainly don't. What they deserve is permanancy. Knowing that they have a home and it is THEIR home and no one is taking them away or sending them to a new place and strange people aren't always going to be coming into their lives asking them questions and meeting with them. They deserve a "forever" family.

I work in foster care and adoption. I see these kids every day. They just want a family that they know is theirs and that isn't going away. Most imnportantly, they don't want me in their life until they are adults.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 01:05 PM
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6. oh gosh, let me guess, stay at home Mom is even better
In fact, why don't we give her a string of pearls, a vacuum cleaner and a plate of cookies that she can keep shoving in her beloved Beaver.



Or, more realistically, Mom and Dad both work full time jobs with an hour commute each way just barely making ends meet. They raise The Beav in their more advantageous hetero household, ignoring him the whole week long, gone before breakfast and home after dinner, and then demand that they be a proper family and go to church every Sunday. When he tells them he's not really all that interested in girls, they freak out, take away his flute and enroll him in football, but not wrestling, because, you know.

As it turns out he does like girls, just not the kind you meet at church socials, which they find even more abhorrent than being queer, so they give him his flute back and send him off to prowl around band camp.

That's SOOO much better than being raised in a queer household by well adjusted parents who get it not matter what it is, and who know how much harder the fight has to be to raise a kid with a future when the worst influences on that kid for having queer parents come from all the hetero "normal" people pissing and moaning about evil gays.

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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 01:38 PM
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7. I just had a "Beavis and Butthead" moment with your first line.
Sorry. Still giggling. I'll go for a walk now...
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hraka Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 07:45 AM
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9. I had hetero parents, & step parents, & aunt & uncles, & foster parents
I was 19 when I met my first gay man (that I knew of) who told me I was a lesbian. I said maybe I am, what is it. I came out 2 years later after meeting my first lesbian couple (neither my lover). I felt whole for the 1st time in my life.
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