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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:11 PM
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Gay Republicans Fete Schwarzenegger Despite Gay Vetoes
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/06/062006arnold.htm

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger will be the keynote speaker at a fundraising event next week for the national Log Cabin Republicans despite his veto of legislation to allow same-sex marriage and his threatened veto of a bill to mandate the teaching of LGBT history in California schools.

It will be Schwarzenegger's first appearance before a gay organization Log Cabin said in a statement. Tickets for the June 29 event to be held at the Renaissance Hotel are going quickly according to the group. Tickets range from $250 for the dinner and reception to $10,000 for a listing as a co-sponsor of the event.

"There is a better than 50-50 chance this man will be the governor of California for the next four years, and for the gay community to label somebody based on one veto is shortsighted," Log Cabin national president Patrick Guerrero told the Associated Press.

"We thought allowing him to address these issues in a friendly setting as well as giving him a chance to get another look at who gay and lesbian families are was important both for him and for us."

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:13 PM
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1. Jews for Hitler
that's what we call them around here
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:15 PM
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2. Has anyone actually met one of these people? n/t
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Strathos Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:23 PM
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6. I did.
He was the brother of the state senator Jeff Miller. Jeff Miller is responsible for getting the anti same-sex marriage bill on the ballot (2006) in Tennessee. His brother, who I met at a local gay bar, claims to be a Log Cabin Republican, and when I called him on it and said for the LCR to support Bush is like Jew supporting Hitler, he went NUTS. Started screaming and bible quoting and all that shit they do when they don't get their way. I laughed. Turns out his brother isn't the saint he portrayed himself to be. Read about it here, http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2005/12/anti-gay-lawmaker-retaliates-against.html

Both of them are vile. Jeff's brother also told me that their father was a politician. I said, well, they all lie. He went nuts again saying his father has never lied. I laughed again and walked away. I was afraid I might hit him.


I haven't seen the brother again since.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:50 PM
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15. It's so scary to see people acting out all over the world like that.
Their Christmas dinners must be very special.

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Strathos Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:30 AM
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17. Can you imagine the dinner at the Miller's house?
Hey, uh, well, gay marriage sucks. Yeah it does son, how's the divorce coming? Fine Dad how's your "I'm the only politician who ever tells the truth" scheme going? Hey homo son, how do you feel about everything? Fine Daddy, I'm just doing what I'm told to do. Do you want me to put my head in the microwave again?
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The Brethren Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:17 PM
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22. LOL
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 05:16 AM
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20. One of my good friends is a Log Cabin and we get into these arguments
where we always get to the point when each of us knows to lay off before we say something we know would go to far and hurt each other.

One of his favorite arguments is: "Just exactly what does the Democratic Party do to help gays and lesbians? It was a Democrat....President Bill Clinton who signed DOMA and DADT..."

Yes, true about those two dispicable decisions.....but after I call him an idiot ;) -- I ask him what the fuck the repukes do to help gays and lesbians?

And then I point out that all but two democrats??? voted against the recent gay marriage constitutional amendment, when an overwhelming percentage of pukes voted in favor!

And then I point out that while the Dem's are disappointing in a lot of ways concerning gay rights, they're much, much more likely to help make our lives better than the GOP could do in a million years.

And then this is where I start getting irritated..... I point out that he has to feel ridiculous attending GOP events knowing just about everyone in the room believes he's going to hell because he's gay (that's a good one because the vein on the side of his neck gets puffy because he's getting mad!)

Alright, that's evil, but I care for him so much, I just feel so embarrassed for him knowing so many conservatives no doubt act nice toward him, but then talk behind his back.....and what's even worse, he donates to the GOP.

Anyway....that's my misguided Log Cabin friend :eyes:

I'm hoping he wakes up by the time he turns 30 next year!!
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 02:36 PM
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21. typical - Clenis answer
they really need to update their arsenal.

Also, when Clinton did that we criticized him and still do. With those loonies you can't criticize der Führer OR their party.

Isn't it funny how you hear them change the topic so readily to some straw man thing instead of extolling what virtues they may have. Well, if there were virtues to extoll I'm sure they would do it.

You're right they are deluded.
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The Brethren Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:38 PM
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24. DADT
Cboy...I'm glad you're trying to work with your log cabin friend - you have more patience with it then me. LOL

But the next time he brings up Clinton and the DADT policy, I hope he realizes that while that policy is by no means perfect, given the repub run Congress that Clinton had to deal with, anything more open minded would've been killed altogether.

And while the DADT still allows the govt. to throw gays out of the military if they are public about being gay, it is also very different then any Republican President would've done for us - instead, they would have done nothing and remained silent on the issue....or perhaps even made it easier for the military to harass and punish gay military personal even more.

Incidentally, do you recall any president other then Clinton - Democrat or Republican who has even tried to change the way the military treats gay men and lesbians? I don't know any who has. I have straight family members in the military today and have been for years, including those who are officers and those who are former military working with them as civilians. And they've told me that because of Clinton's DADT policy that there is more tolerance towards gays then before. Not the same as equality and there are certainlly cases of discrimination still going on. However, they've noticed a definite change in the way gays are being treated by a number of people - more acceptance by many even tho. it isn't being said in the news.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:15 PM
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3. Log Cabin Republicans...
need the guidance counselor. :hurts:
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:17 PM
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5. i think they're hoping to be groped.
or maybe they collect Arnold porn :shrug:
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:16 PM
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4. "Label him based on one veto is shortsighted" ????
Give me a break!!! The one veto is related to the one issue that probably should matter more to the LCRs as a group than any other.

Oh, yes - excuse me, I'm being short-sighted. He hasn't yet signed the legislation to round them all up and put them in internment camps.:sarcasm:
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bobbyjay31 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:24 PM
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7. the defense of marriage act
has no rationale,more men run off with women then men,does that mean we ban pussy?excuse the lanuage,its for effect.
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Strathos Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:25 PM
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8. Love the language
and your sense of humor is right on the mark!!!!
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bobbyjay31 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:39 PM
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10. the break up of most marriages
has nothing to do with gay people,another rethug smokescreen,whats horrible is gay rethugs following the story line,hypocrites.
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:39 PM
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11. Agree, love the humor - welcome to DU!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:01 PM
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14. I guess that would depend on whether you want men to run off
or not.

Welcome to DU. :)
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:46 AM
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18. Exactly, but it'll lead to man-dog relationships ...
and :party:WELCOME ABOARD!!:party:
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:31 PM
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9. Chickens for Colonel Sanders.
:evilfrown:
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Brazenly Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 04:10 PM
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12. based on one veto?
That one veto is an issue of civil rights. How many of these Log Cabiners would issue a public statement today saying it would have been "shortsighted" in the fifties and sixties to label someone based on his support of segregation? Damn few, I imagine, because it's considered bad form to be outspokenly racist these days -- and rightly so.

It wasn't all that long ago that civil rights weren't extended to people of color. And at the time, there were some blacks who were the equivalent of these LCRs and who thought it was shortsighted to push the issue too hard too fast. Those rights were fiinally codified only because there were enough "one issue" people and enough integrity on the Supreme Court to make it happen. The Supremes aren't likely to be much help now, so it's up to all of us. All of us who are willing to stand up and say, "Yes, one issue can be enough. Civil rights is that issue. it took us too long to do the right thing and make sure people of color were included. It's taken us too long to do the right thing and make sure the GLBT community is included. It's time. It's past time."
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 04:18 PM
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13. Gay Resmuglicans have got to be the most deluded people on EARTH!
eot
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Meeker Morgan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 05:11 PM
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19. Gay 'pugs. I know some. Not friends,
Rich "straight acting" gay men who like low taxes, live in liberal big cities, and don't care about marriage.

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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 10:41 PM
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16. "Gay Republican" = quisling n/t
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ABaker Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 04:36 PM
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23. But some of those gay republicans
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 04:37 PM by ABaker
might be in favor of the war in Iraq or

might be for the death penalty or

opposed to unions or, well, you get the idea.

Those gay Republicans I do NOT want in the Democratic party. Let's not start welcoming people simply because they're gay. Their position on other issues matter as well.
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