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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:57 PM Original message |
Let's face it we lost tonight |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Hopefully, this wakes everybody up. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. Obama has not flirted with homophobes. |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Not only did he flirt, he embraced a dangerous bigot that wants to kill gays. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Care to point out where that happened? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. you claimed in another thread that McClurkin never even talked at the event |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Hey why didn't you respond to the youtube video I posted for you |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. McClurkin wasn't just some garden variety supporter |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. He didn't MC, he performed, and it was a concert, not a fundraiser. NT |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Excuse me, he did emcee and he spoke for 30 minutes on Obama's dime. |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. That was a defining Obama moment for me ... |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. He legitimized him |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
35. What part of WE do you not understand! If you're not gay, why are you here baiting us? |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. It's those militant heterosexuals again, trying to force their agenda on us n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
55. He gave a prominent anti-gay preacher a prominent platform |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. Baloney. Please. Peruse DU, or wiki, or somewhere. You haven't |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. SC and MC Cluckn was politics |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
33. Yeah, just get past it |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #3 |
36. Are you gay? Why are you baiting us in our the forum for our issues? Why can't we talk |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
50. yeah we are all hysterically bitter |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. This PFLAGer is pretty down about this also ... |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. no doubt |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
9. If it's Obama vs. Huckleberry |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Resist the urge...he's already talking about "reconciling" faith and politics |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. same shit different asshole |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
12. The best we can hope for under Obama is a welcome mat placed right in front of the closet. |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Yup |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Uh, excuse me? "payoff"? Sorry, some of us see it as equality |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
58. I see any progress as a payoff for time invested |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. With last estimates putting the population of gay couples in |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Well, whatever they do, I hope they're not working with your numbers |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. So give me some numbers ... I'm open to updating the stats |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Oh, I don't think the data can do that |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. No more free rides from this gay. They have to work for my vote. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:52 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Yeah, good luck on getting solid data in an anti-gay nation. And do gays out of relationships count? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
20. Yes, only Kucinich came out for full and equal rights for gays, all the rest are |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
21. dsc, I think if Obama is elected, he'll be an instrument for change. |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Maybe, but not for us |
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sjdnb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. How is that? He pandered to the worst among us |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. Thanks for the good vibes. But he won't support us. He threw us under the bus during the primary. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #21 |
47. i think the homophobic vote is more important to obama than the homosexual vote |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #21 |
52. I hope you're right. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
22. I think this has cemented my support for Edwards |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #22 |
40. From your mouth to Obama's God's ears. /nt |
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Tyo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
28. We're fucked again. Simple as that.n/t |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
32. Iowa, in the entire nominating process, means little |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
34. Obama will continue to "flirt with homophobes" if it's once |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:55 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. He'll goes as far as he can to fuck us over. That much is clear. /nt |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
41. It's sickening to hear about all this "hope". What hope? For who? Not for me. /nt |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
44. As usual, I'm in a muddle. Has either Clinton or Edwards.... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Because defending LGBT people never scores you any points with homophobes n/t |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. And homophobes vote. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. So do racists. That didn't stop LBJ and MKL, Jr from doing the right thing |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Funny who looks better in the history books... :) |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:09 AM Response to Reply #44 |
54. well its because they are pretty shakey on glbt issues themselves. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
62. Good point. But once again, I'm not asking for a perfect candidate. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. The three of them are playing a game. |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
45. We were going to lose unless Kucinich won. Kucinich did not win. End of story. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
46. strangely enough i was going to post this today too |
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2beToby (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I'm beginning to hope a fundie will win. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. are you crazy? we had 8 years of a fundie already and people are just as stupid |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. And they'll be delighted to tear up your ballot |
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insleeforprez (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
56. Huckabee's victory may be a victory for gays |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. WOW you are optimistic! Actually, in 20 years it will be that way. But not now. /nt |
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Cornus (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Wish I had your optimism. nt |
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insleeforprez (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Must be the youth |
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bigscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
64. i agree |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
65. I am so angry and so damned sorry |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I hope you are feeling better soon |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Thanks. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I can relate |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
69. if |
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