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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:57 PM
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Enough with the 'gay' stuff!


Please note I'm only posting this article. I didn't write it or agree with it. I post it so those in this forum that might not otherwise can see it. On the other hand, too much of this type of crap is printed and lands on the net.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=102180

Matt Barber - Guest Columnist - 5/5/2008 1:40:00 PM

On April 25, adult homosexual activists with the Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network (GLSEN) held their annual "Day of Silence" (DOS) propaganda push. During DOS, teachers and students in roughly 3,000 middle schools, high schools and colleges across the country are cynically used as culture war pawns in an effort to legitimize conventionally immoral, objectively deviant and demonstrably high-risk sexual behaviors.


Kids and teachers are encouraged on DOS to disrupt the school day by refusing to speak in class as a show of support to students who self-identify as "GLBT" (No, GLBT has nothing to do with bacon, lettuce and tomato; it's liberalese for "gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender").


DOS purports to confront the alleged systematic harassment and bullying of sexually confused students who consider themselves "GLBT." Naturally, where there is actual bullying, anywhere, anytime, for any reason, those responsible should be firmly disciplined. However, the reality is that DOS has very little to do with "bullying" and has everything to do with pro-homosexual, anti-Christian indoctrination.

Consider that during DOS, many kids who hold time-honored traditional values relative to sexual morality (i.e., that human sexuality is a gift from God to be shared between husband and wife within the bonds of marriage) are frequently and ironically tagged as "hateful," "bigoted," and "homophobic." (Who's doing the bullying?)

But this year, something extraordinary happened on the way to the brainwashing. Kids at schools all over the country stood tall and said, "Enough is enough!" Untold thousands of students participated in a peaceful, pro-family counter effort called the "Day of Silence Walkout."

In unyielding defense of God's design for natural human sexuality, marriage and family, these gutsy kids stayed home from school on DOS (with their parents' permission) and let school officials know why. Some of them even participated in peaceful prayer rallies outside school in support of sexual morality and purity.

FULL story at link.

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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 07:59 PM
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1. Um, why are these kids "gutsy" for walking out? They're only doing what
their parents told them to...hardly a show of conscience or bravery.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:02 PM
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3. In fairness
the kid who wore straight pride shirt to my class on the day of silence did show courage. I would hope he knows I am fair but he had no way of knowing for sure.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:01 PM
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2. When will GLBTs be happy with 20% of the rights that Heteros have?
20% is fully one in five. ONE in FIVE, people! That's pretty good, right?


Right?


Uh... What was I saying?



(By the way: :sarcasm:)
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:04 PM
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4. I think back to my middle and early high school days and how rough they were
honestly I don't think Christians now have it as bad as I had it then.
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:04 PM
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5. Only a brainless idiot would believe that NOT talking during class is "disruptive."
Since when did the anti-gays get so stupid?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:07 PM
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6. I became very popular with my coworkers thanks to the silence
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 09:02 PM
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9. As well you should have!
I'd hate for my kids to go to a fundagelical school, there would be so much anti-silence they wouldn't learn a thing.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 09:04 PM
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10. In all seriousness
the faculty were truely great. I know I go against some of their beliefs but they stood by me nonetheless. I got better than I deserved at times, and know that. But the silence was golden.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:40 AM
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12. If only the fundie a$$hats would be so disruptive.
Every day should be a "Day of silence" for them.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:28 PM
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7. "In unyielding defense of God's design for natural human sexuality, marriage and family"?
If they had an "unyielding defense of God's design for natural human sexuality, marriage and family" they would be more supportive of GLBT people. If these Christians believe their God is infallible than he/she/it created GLBT just the way the same way he/she/it created heterosexuals. Their god doesn't make mistakes, right? If they understood how two people in love felt, they would also understand that GLBT people should have a right to marry, just like all other adults. Children shouldn't be deciding what constitutes a valid marriage yet these religious nuts are brainwashing their kids by limiting their world and human views. Finally, a family doesn't always mean family through blood. Families are created by adoption, in vitro fertilization, surrogates, etc. Family, as I understand their god to mean, is the family of man, i.e. people.

So, if they really cared about their God's designs, they wouldn't have walked out.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:24 AM
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16. I don't think they have any idea about two people falling in love
Those clowns believe "love" and "marriage" is about duty to God, not about falling in love. After all, "religious" fanatics were all about the "tradition" of only blessing unions arranged by families years ago, regardless of any feelings of "love." They tried to popularize the notion that any heterosexual couple would fall in love if thrown together by outside forces. It was all about church domination and interference in the rights of individuals - just as it is today.

Their arrogance about "disagreeing" with the "homosexual lifestyle" because their chosen church has selected gay-bashing as a moneymaking scheme is disgusting. But that arrogance is only underscored by their "unyielding commitment" that they alone have the right to interfere with the rights of others. They can't merely say "I'm not gay because I'm a right-wing "Christian" and my "religious beliefs" won't allow it" - mostly because they aren't gay anyway. Instead, they have to say "No one can be gay because I'm a right-wing "Christian" and my "religious beliefs" won't allow it." It's all about domination.

I shut a wingnut "Christian" up once who started going on and on about the sinful homosexuals, explaining how God doesn't like it. I just responded "so you aren't gay because your "religious" beliefs won't allow it." They looked at me real funny and said "No - I'm not gay. But God didn't make anyone to be gay." I laughed and said "in other words, your "religious" beliefs won't allow YOU to be gay - so you assume everyone else is supposed to be held captive to your "religious" beliefs." That shut them up.

Make them own their own shit.

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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:21 AM
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17. You are quite correct
Too many people are held captive to their religious beliefs. That, to me, is the problem in a nutshell.

"Oh, I'm sorry, I can't open my mind because my religious beliefs don't allow for free thought or free will. Besides my radical religious cleric says it is wrong or wouldn't approve of it." It is a very juvenile perspective. It's like living your entire life letting someone else decide how you should live it, what you should think and how you should act. It really does amaze me how people can profess to practice a religion that is preaches peace, love and understanding and yet live their lives doing just the opposite.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:35 PM
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8. When will the US join civilization?
Why is this stuff even an issue?

Why is anything classed as a religion automatically given a pass for hate speech and rampant stupidity?

It's really, really hard to read this stuff, and so much of it, without wanting to put up border fences to keep the craziness there.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:38 AM
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11. With all due respect,
Why are you posting this homophobic bilge here? It's nothing but RRRW propaganda without one fact in it. It doesn't even belong on DU, let alone in the GLBT section. If we want to see hateful slime like that we certainly know what cesspool to find it in.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:34 AM
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13. I was about to say the same thing
BUt you beat me to it.

There's no reason to post this crap here under the guise of "education" -- we know what these fuckers think of us.

Maybe if they weren't so intent on hating others, they'd get a little tolerance in return. I may never like fundies, but I might could learn to tolerate them.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:18 AM
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15. Thirded. Who even reads crap from the "American Family News Network"
Pardon me while I :puke: at that Orwellian title.


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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 11:59 AM
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18. I completely agree.
That article doesn't belong here.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 05:00 PM
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20. Gotta Disagree, Buff.
I think it's TREMENDOUSLY important that stuff like this gets posted - often - here and elsewhere. While you may not be shocked by it, other people still can be...people who DON'T hear about stuff like this everyday, who would be horrified to learn that people can still feel and act this way. You never know what is going to open someone's eyes; I know more than one person who's read filth like this and come away with a better understanding of how much work there is left to do, and why no one who knows and loves a gay person can afford to sit on the sidelines.

Yes, we all get tired of reading this crap, and I would certainly urge you to complain that it exists, but I respectfully suggest that you shouldn't complain about it being posted.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:58 PM
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21. That's what I was thinking.
Edited on Tue May-06-08 06:58 PM by DarkTirade
Those who haven't faced this kind of discrimination often don't know the kind of opposition that's out there. It's hard for an ordinary, intelligent person to conceptualize that there is a ridiculously large number of people out there who honestly believe that it's 'right' to deny basic equal rights to an entire group of people unless it's something they've run into.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:42 AM
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14. So by NOT talking, they're being disruptive?
Wow. This person has some perspective issues.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 03:04 PM
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19. Who the hell RECOMMENDED this?
Sick.
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canis_lupus Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:19 PM
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22. LOL! The best part of the link are some of the responses.
I particularly love this gem:

"Didn't Matt Barber work his way through law school as a female impersonator at the Jewel Box Revue in Tucson? He looks sooooo familiar, but it's hard to tell without all the taffeta."
:rofl:
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