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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 06:49 PM Original message |
Top hospitals put unorthodox therapies into practice |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good |
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katsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh thank goodness. |
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KatyaR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. There's something called the "TTouch" that is used on animals. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
47. It's why I always insist on staying with my kitty at the vet |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. Here in my neck of the woods |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Hearsay |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. corroboration for something similar |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. As a PT who worked ona limited budget in state hospitals (IL) |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. Happy to hear this! |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. Oh please. Reiki was debunked by a freaking high school student. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. better write your complaints |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. There are some hospitals getting into it - and it ain't because it's empirically validated. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. some controversy about that |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-16-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Overall, there's very little research |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Thank you for that article also. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. What research are you talking about? serious question. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Emily Rosa |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. link they give goes nowhere. Here is link to abstract... |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Whoops--sorry about that |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Had a friend who showed me how, it bugged him I could |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. you don't need to convince me |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Please tell me the biology of a "chakra" |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Emotion |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #31 |
53. So there was no emotion before western meds? |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
77. emotions again |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. How about acupuncture? I undestand your skepitcism, have much myself. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Sometimes the "warmer" areas |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:29 AM Response to Reply #34 |
52. There is sound biology behind acupuncture. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Language/terminology can get in the way of discussing things. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Issues |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. I wan't clear. My issue is doing it without asking. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. well that is obvious |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Those who use five element acupuncture terminology |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
61. this is for the parents, for sure. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Who the fuck cares? |
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BuddhaGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Exactly! |
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chicagomd (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Because it is not harmless |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Warm fuzzies |
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chicagomd (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Happy Moms = Happy babies, and |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Keep moms and babies happy |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. One should treat the adult like an adult |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. it is all about relaxation |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. It's all about the framing |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I know what they say to patients |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Because there's supposed to be some sort of benefit to treatment. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. Really, in general I would say that's true, certainly in cases of treatment |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. So you're saying that it is rare that any medicinal treatment has any benefit whatsoever? |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. No, that's not at all what I'm saying. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Ah, I misunderstood. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I would agree with you if it looked like this was replacing recognized therapies |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I don't think it matters if it is replacing recognized therapies. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Well, you're free to have your ire raised by anything you want. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 03:36 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I have more than enough to go around |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:16 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. seems to me that it IS a marketing thing |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. But chaplains don't play doctor. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Energetic therapists |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Then what differentiates... |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. all energetic therapists are different |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. I can answer some of that. It depends. More...; |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I guess the question I meant to ask is: |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Here in WA it's a 500 hour program from massage therapists |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Well how about taking money that funds studies on "warm fuzzies" |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. If it adds even a penny to the cost of my insurance, even indirectly |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 07:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. I feel that way about pharmaceutical advertising |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. FWIW, I find the preponderance of pharmaceutical ads distasteful |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. fair enough |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Again, it's all in the framing |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. well, it is not as if energy practitioners are stupid |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #27 |
55. FYI.... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Incidentally, what sort of degree do you have to have to get into your line of work? |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. I only have a BS degree.. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. I might have to...move to the states or Ontario. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #55 |
76. I feel for you |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #26 |
54. Actually pharamaceutical advertising isn't nearly as pricey |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #54 |
78. Big Pharma Spends More On Advertising Than Research And Development, Study Finds |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
57. Touch therapy in a setting where MRSA and other highly infectious diseasesa are rampant? |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-19-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. Children's Hospital |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-20-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #57 |
73. Anyone working there would be trained in health and safety measures. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Who would believe that? |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
79. Get with the program. Those magic healing powers KILLS bacteria. |
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