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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:36 PM
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Cloned Meat Decision Sparks Consumer Campaign
NEW YORK, Jan 24 (OneWorld) - A broad coalition is urging consumers and grocery stores to refuse burgers, milk, and other products from cloned animals, following a U.S. government decision to lift a ban on the controversial foods.

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Within hours, a petition hit cyberspace warning that "Genetically speaking, you meat eaters could be eating burgers from the same cow for years."

The petition will urge grocery stores to refuse to stock food from cloned animals. Signatures will be delivered to grocery stores, the U.S. Congress, and the FDA.

The campaign is sponsored by the advocacy group Friends of the Earth and a coalition of corporations, nonprofits, and politicians including Ben & Jerry's, the Consumer Federation of America, Union of Concerned Scientists, the Center for Food Safety, Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), and Representative Rosa DeLauro (D-CT).

The coalition says the FDA studies are inadequate to determine the safety of cloned meat because the sample size is too small -- there are only about 600 cloned animals in the United States, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture -- and because clones' offspring are not included in the assessment.

One World


Each time cloning and food is used in the same sentence the results appear to be the same. The scientific community calmly explains why its not a problem. While consumers strongly rejects the idea of eating clone meat and products.

Will cloning ever be acceptable to the consumer?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:45 PM
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1. We need an FDA that is real rather than fake. Since Reagan, the FDA has been worth shit....
We need cloned meats prominently labeled at the grocery store, "CLONED MEAT." I'm sick to death of corporation CEOs becoming billionaires off lies!
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:49 PM
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3. Yes, the FDA trust factor is a problem.
And, I suspect, because the beef industry seem to be pushing this effort, it is causing some eyebrows to rise.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:53 PM
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4. Wonder if there are any efforts out there to force labelling of these products? I'll go look nt
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:48 PM
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2. If clones born at the same time ( i.e. twins)
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 12:52 PM by cosmik debris
are offered to the consumer, they would gobble it up. But when clones born years apart are offered to consumers, they are consumed with fear. It is clear that fear is being consumed more readily than meat.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:27 PM
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5. Too bad the public can't get up the same or better Head of Steam for GM seeds.
Genetically modified is where the real dangers lay.
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:44 PM
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6. It's the deja food effect
The feeling that a person has, somewhere, sometime, eaten that cow before. Moo scary!

Maybe if the scientists stood outside of grocery stores waving signs wearing funny costumes consumers would listen to them.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:10 PM
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7. no recs??? so I guess everyone is okay with unlabeled cloned food??? nt
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:13 PM
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8. I'm okay with it, I'd eat it
But, I understand how genetics and cloning work, at least better than the average layperson, so I don't get the oogie-boogies from it.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:05 PM
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10. Yep
If you were OK eating the gentic duplicate cow born "naturally" why not be OK eating the clone?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 01:19 PM
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9. They'll have to fix that telomere problem before it becomes
particularly popular. Cloning is still an expensive process and rendered unnecessary by modern artificial insemination methods whereby hundreds of cows are inseminated by the same prize bull, transferring the bull's characteristics on to many generations of offspring.

Telomeres determine how long an organism will survive. Cloning produces the same length telomere in the DNA of the cloned animal as in the original. If they clone an adult animal, the offspring will have their lifespan reduced by the same amount of time it took the original animal to reach adulthood, something they found with Dolly the sheep and other cloned animals. An animal generally has to reach adulthood before experts can determine its superiority for human use/abuse. Cloning successive generations would likely result in animals that didn't survive into adulthood.
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:23 AM
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11. More veal!
I don't see why stock-piling tissues taken from young/newborn animals and evaluating the usefulness of that particular animal at a later date wouldn't work, at least short-cutting some of the issues with telomeres.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:29 PM
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12. Cloning animals for the purpose of selling their meat is stupid and expensive.
Why the fuck would anyone even bother wasting their time? Just let the cows fuck.

Not that I would have a problem eating cloned meat. There is nothing wrong with it. Cloning is not the same as recombinant technology.
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