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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:27 AM
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Doctors, nurses clash over plan to expand role of nurse practitioners
http://www.mcknights.com/doctors-nurses-clash-over-plan-to-expand-role-of-nurse-practitioners/article/167984/

More than half of all U.S. states are mulling the possibility of expanding the professional role of nurse practitioners as a primary care physician shortage looms, according to recent news reports.

As many as 28 states are considering increasing the authority given to nurse practitioners, The Associated Press reported. The recently implemented healthcare reform law will add 32 million insured Americans to an already short-handed healthcare system. Many states believe that by expanding nurse practitioner roles to allow nurses to practice without a physician's oversight, or to prescribe medication, they can save money and still provide care services.

The Medicare program reimburses nurse practitioners at 85% of what physicians are paid, the AP reported. Many nurses, especially in long-term care, have said that allowing nurses to prescribe medications would eliminate delays in nursing home residents receiving needed pain medication. Physicians are generally opposed to the plan, and the American Medical Association has dispatched a number of doctors to state legislatures across the country to argue against the bigger role for nurses.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:31 AM
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1. personally, I've had GREAT treatments and respect from nurse practitioners
I'd prefer working with them.

Physicians need to get off their high horses -- they KNEW there was a shortage in GP's, did NOTHING about it, and now that a solution is being sought that *might* take some power from them - they are throwing tantrums. Grow up.

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:40 AM
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2. Agree 100%
I think a lot of routine care can be handed over to NPs. Especially if a patient has an established relationship with the practice and everybody, including the patient, knows what the treatment plan is.

The AMA has held enrollments at med schools at artificially low levels for decades. So now they are whining when someone else figures out that Hey! We need more Docs! Well, D'uh!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 08:46 AM
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3. I too have had great experiences wih the NP who works at our Dr.'s
office. She is more accessable & much more frendly to her patients too. In my experience, most people go to the Dr. for minor things like sinus infections, ear ache, the flu, etc. and there is no reason not to extend treatment if things like that to the NP's. In fact, when some special need arises, the GP doesn't want to handle those anymore either! Thy refer you to a specialist!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 01:54 PM
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7. Same here, and NPs get three times the education
that PAs do, yet docs don't seem terribly put out by the prospect of expanding the PA role. The differences? The name and the fact that most PAs are male.

Docs really do need to grow up. Medically stable people under treatment for chronic illnesses really do need to be followed by NPs. NPs need to be able to prescribe the full range of medications necessary without having to wait for physician approval.

Docs need to preserve their roles as diagnosticians and specialists.

Guys, nobody is suggesting NPs hang out shingles as surgeons. Your turf is safe. Just realize that nurses who have had a great deal of education in medicine just might be able to follow your stable patients better than you can and that your time will then be freed up for the interesting stuff.
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SocialistLez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:58 AM
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4. I love NPs
I had a good experience with one about two years ago.

I think we need to expand their role.

Many of my "doctor's appointments" could easily be done by a nurse practitioner, especially if she could write the prescriptions. Doctors only spend 15 minutes on average with their patients and depending on their specialty, they can get $100-300+ from insurance companies for a 15 minute visit.
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HelenWheels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 10:05 AM
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5. NP listen
better than most doctors and they spend more time with a patient. I had a NP for my gyn care and she was great. Unfortunately she is moving to another area.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 10:39 AM
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6. Some editorials on the issue.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 10:49 PM
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8. I've been happy with the treatment I've gotten from nurse practioners in the past.
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