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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 04:54 PM
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Mr Ketchup wants Mac and Cheese tonight with his pork chops
I said, I have some recipes for homemade from DU

he says and I quote, "Recipe? here's the recipe... boil some noodles, put a glob of butter on them and that shredded sharp cheddar we've got then add some milk and salt and pepper. Anything else is just snooty and will ruin it. and you can tell em I said that!"

he continued...... "O chit, I'm gonna get flamed for that aren't I?"


:rofl:

so tonight I guess I'll be making "non snooty" Mac and Cheese for dinner

pray for me my darlings........ :hide:
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:00 PM
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1. But then that's not mac and cheese!!!
That's just macaroni with cheese melted onto it.

Mac and cheese is macaroni baked in a lovely cheesy sauce. The sauce is a labor of love and patient stirring of milk, cheese, and arrowroot on the stovetop.

The distinction between the two is real.

/sniff
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:03 PM
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2. yes he will get flamed
& you can tell him so from me. Everyone, but everyone who eats my mac & cheese wants the recipe. & I don't just boil a bunch of noodles & add cheese & milk. humph!

Tell you what, do the bread crumb topping & tell him to stick it up his nose. :rofl:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:55 PM
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4. A breadcrumb junkie????
http://www.crazyus.com.nyud.net:8090/images/meth-junkie-thumb.jpg

This woman was a normal eater until she started dancing with that breadcrumb monkey .......
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 08:48 PM
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9. She didn't look all that healthy in the before, either. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 05:51 PM
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3. Too bad you couldn't do a side by side: your version, his
version, and make him choose the preferred one. I'll bet I know which one would win!
Though his version is probably easier...
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:46 PM
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5. I make the non-snooty version all the time.
Kids love it, hubby doesn't eat cheese, so he doesn't know the diff. But for it to be true comfort food, you really need the bubbly, baked cheese. Sorry, but that is just how it is.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 08:12 PM
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6. it came out pretty good
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 08:12 PM by AZDemDist6
with havarti and extra sharp cheddar

and it was easy.......

we had rosemary (fresh from my herb "garden") and balsamic vinegar braised pork chops and fresh steamed broccoli

and there's brownies for dessert! :bounce:
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 08:13 PM
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7. Oh, brownies!
Save one for me :9
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:41 PM
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18. you have GOT to be kidding!
they were gone in an instant

:rofl:
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 08:37 PM
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8. Whenever you want .......
the woodchipper's on the next flight out of Dulles.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 09:14 PM
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10. nah, he puts up with my "Ms Hollandaise" flights of experimentation
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 09:19 PM by AZDemDist6
so when he needs comfort food, i never mind

he's the best and no wood chippers needed :loveya:

i'll go find the thread if I can that started the Hollandaise/Ketchup thing and you'll have more sympathy for the poor guy LOL

edit to add the link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=236&topic_id=4650#4685

here's the kind of stuff he has to put up with

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=236&topic_id=11138#11178
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:57 PM
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11. best mac and cheese I've ever made...
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:50 AM by mike_c
...is the recipe from John Thorn's Simple Cooking. Macaroni mixed with sharp cheddar, gruyere, and a bechamel sauce, lots of black pepper, topped with bread crumbs, then baked until brown and bubbly. Oh that's good.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 08:35 PM
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19. DAYS too late to edit, but just in case anyone every digs this thread up..
Edited on Mon Dec-26-05 08:38 PM by mike_c
...I've had a taste for baked mac and cheese ever since this thread first appeared, so tonight I decided to make some for dinner. Dug out my wrinkled copy of Thorne to check proportions and found to my horror that my recipe for mac and cheese not only isn't in there, but Thorne excoriates that lovely bechamel based concoction. I haven't tried the one he uses instead-- it's based on evaporated milk rather than a white sauce-- but I wouldn't want anyone to think my earlier remarks were my last word on macaroni, cheese, and John Thorne. At any rate, I'm off to find the real source of my favorite mac and cheese recipe.

Got it-- it's Anna Thomas' first version of The Vegetarian Epicure. I don't have the newer version, so I don't know whether it's in there or not, but for prosperity, here it is (paraphrased):

1 lb macaroni noodles
3 cups simple bechamel sauce (I just use butter, flour, hot milk, and a touch of nutmeg)
4 oz Parmesan grated cheese
3/4 lb Fontina cheese, coarsely grated (I use a sharp white cheddar)
salt and freshly ground pepper
1 cup breadcrumbs

Cook the pasta until just al dente. Mix all the ingredients except the bread crumbs in a buttered, oven proof cassarole. Sprinkle the crumbs on top. Bake at 350 F for 20-25 minutes until it's well browned and bubbly. Serve immediately.

John Thorne be damned, THIS is the One True Macaroni and Cheese. So now I'm off to make it.
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jeanarrett Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:16 PM
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12. Okay--Throw those mac and cheese recipes out here!
I want to make it tonight!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 04:00 PM
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13. here's the link to the Mac and Cheese thread, enjoy!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=236&topic_id=3855

I made the "non snooty" M&C like this

about 2 cups of pasta, before cooking

3/4 cup sharp cheddar, grated
1 cup havarti, grated
1/4 c milk
1/4 c butter (about 1/2 stick)
salt and pepper

all these measurements are approximate

cook the noodles, drain and rinse and return to low heat, add butter and toss, add cheese and milk and cook until cheese is melted and noodles are covered. Salt and pepper to taste

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jeanarrett Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 04:51 PM
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14. Woo Hoo--it's own thread! Thanks--
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:36 PM
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16. you're welcome! and let us know how it turned out n/t
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 02:54 AM
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20. What kind of noodles do you use?
I'm assuming that it's not just ordinary elbows! There are so many varieties out there - I love the twisty ones (?) or those shaped like bells. And I'm wondering what you think is best for this. Thanks.:D

Also, this does sound inspired. I love havarti, but have never cooked with it. This sounds fantastic!:9
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 10:49 AM
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21. this time I used radiatori
Edited on Thu Dec-29-05 10:49 AM by AZDemDist6
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:20 PM
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22. I love those! And I have some!
I make a really good cold pasta salad that calls for elbows, but I've always used these little pasta puffs instead. I love the way that they contain the dressing or sauce. And I'll have to think about what goes into that cold pasta salad so I can share that one, as well. I made it once to bring to work for "food day" and it was such a hit that they never let me bring anything else. Thank you!:D
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 08:00 PM
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23. i love Pasta Salad but DH doesn't
so i don't make it too often......
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 08:59 PM
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24. Mine contains yogurt, mayo and seasoned salt, for the dressing
And matchstick ham, shredded cheddar cheese, diced dill pickles, green onions, tomatoes, mushrooms. I may be leaving something out. I have, of course, lost the recipe, so I'm not good at amounts. I just play it by ear. But I'll work on this. I know it sounds odd, but I found this recipe on my mother's kitchen table, and made it, thinking it was new, but it fell out of something, LOL! You'll like it, as my co-workers did, and maybe DH will like it, given a chance...:-)
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:26 AM
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30. Try Bahamian Mac & Cheese for something truly different.
My husband is Bahamian and he puts in an order for this once in a while. I don't make often and my arteries harden as I prepare it. It is custard based and a heavy meal by itself. Cuts like a cake. Goes good with fish or chicken.



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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:41 PM
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15. As long as he doesn't
put ketchup on the Mac & Cheese.

I would draw the line at that.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:37 PM
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17. nah
in spite of the moniker, he doesn't use ketchup on hardly anything.....
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 06:24 AM
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25. Dredging this up; it's what's for lunch today. Comfort food
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 06:27 AM by babylonsister
for the first football weekend of 06!
And pork chops, and salad, but I want to make my own macs and cheese.
I only have cheddar and mozz. cheese, but I have a can of cheddar
cheese soup I could add. Any thoughts if this is a good idea, or
when I'd do that?
I'm trying to avoid making a roux as my flour is about 4 years old. :blush:
Can you tell I'm not a baker?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 07:58 AM
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26. I wouldn't use the soup
the cheeses you mentioned should be fine. do you have any evaportated milk?

did you check the link above with all the recipes on it?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:09 AM
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27. Yes, I did. Does flour go bad? It's in an airtight container.
And yes, I have evap. milk. But so much grated cheese produces a lot of oily glop. I thought the cheese soup might negate that.:shrug:
My mac and cheese casseroles never seem to retain enough moisture; the pasta must suck it all up.
Maybe I will go for the boxed stuff.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:13 AM
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28. Make a SMALL batch that way
Do the white sauce based cheese sauce for your own. My guess is that he'll confront the oily, stringy glop he ordered and want some of yours.

Please tell me he doesn't cook.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:21 AM
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29. No, he doesn't cook and requested the boxed stuff. Sigh.
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 08:26 AM by babylonsister
I give up. Of course, the positive to that is there won't be many leftovers for me to fatten up some more on.

PS He does barbeque outside, but told me it'd be raining all day today so I'm cooking inside. It's currently sunny out.:eyes: I've been duped!
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