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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 07:03 PM
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Have you come across this site: Health woo AND Fundie woo rolled into one
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 07:07 PM by LeftishBrit
http://healthtruthrevealed.com/about-crusador.php

Here's a novel perspective from the site on healthy eating:


'In fact, the concept of eating the right foods is so important to God that He wastes no time in the Bible instructing us on how to eat properly:

And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.” (Genesis 1:29)

The plot thickens when the first man and woman are further instructed and warned that eating improperly will cost them their lives:

And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” (Genesis 2:16-17)

It is easy to deduce two very important points then from these familiar scriptures as well as several others in the Bible. First of all, God most definitely has ordained a perfect eating plan for human beings – one that, when followed properly, will give us health, vitality, strength, long life, and yes… even wisdom. Secondly, eating the wrong foods can lead to unnecessary illnesses and even a premature death'

Wow. And double wow.

Needless to say, they love Ron Paul.

And no prizes for guessing who linked to that site!
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 07:07 PM
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1. Actually, what I'm most ashamed of DU for in the past six months is
the level of support Ron Paul enjoyed on this site. Memo to Democrats: even if someone is against the Iraq War, that doesn't excuse you from looking at the rest of his positions.
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 07:29 PM
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2. I just saw you post that in Health
Including the comment from their site about how a Democrat will result in socialized medicine where illegal Mexican immigrants will get preferential treatment. Be afraid of the brown people!

I'll be sure to let my coworker from Trinidad know she should try to become illegal so she'll get better health care, along with that 'free bag of money' that immigrants get according to the RW which she says she missed out on. That reminds me, now that we'll all be doing our taxes soon we can start blaming her for living off our tax dollars resulting in us paying more. Except for that 'having a job' thing. It's great annual fun!
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:02 PM
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3. No surprise
I have said (and heard this) that arguing with health woos is alot like arguing with christian fundamentalists. No surprise that .
The bald statements with no factual basis.
There is little difference to me between "vaccines cause SIDS" and "Carbon Dating is wrong--the world is 6000 years old".
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:53 PM
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4. I see - and which part of "symbolic parable" do they not understand?
Oddly enough, I was just enjoying the part of Christopher Hitchens' "God Is Not Great" where he posits the idea that the biblical/muslim fear of eating pork has its origins in the fact that eating people was very reminiscent, apparently, of eating pork.

Seems that while symbolic cannibalism is acceptable, eating bacon is a little too, er... close to the bone.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:43 PM
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5. What I heard ...
is that bacon and pork were banned by Jews and Muslims, because in the Middle East before the availability of good sanitation and modern cooking practices, they often contained parasites that caused serious diseases. I don't know whether this has any validity, but I've heard it from several sources.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:06 PM
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6. Thats what I believe
Tricanosis (sp)? I think it is. But yes, pork that's unclean can cause SERIOUS illness
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:19 PM
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7. Trichinosis- a round worm
Yum!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis

I think the people at the CDC who recommend eating pork cooked to 165 degrees have cardboard for lunch everyday. Worm dies around 140 anyway, why destroy tasty pork?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:12 PM
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8. Trichinosis
I had an acquaintance who got it from improperly cooked pork in China. It's nasty, painful, and you never get rid of it completely. It's obvious why the proscription against pork existed. Lacking accurate thermometers, people had few ways to make sure their pork had reached a high enough internal temperature to kill off all the cysts.

Not only that, biblical proscriptions were against most scavenger animals, and pigs and shellfish were considered scavengers, on the theory that any creature that lived on the decaying waste of others (and pigs eat their own feces, yuck) were unclean for people.

As to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, god obviously told a fib about that one since his pet humans didn't die. The snake gave them the true story, that it would open their eyes to what was really going on, which it did. That made them unfit to keep occupying the comfy cage and they were driven out to live with the rest of us after Adam blamed Eve for everything, typical man.
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chicagomd Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:04 PM
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9. oooooh, pork parasites.
My personal favorite is Taenia solium.

Its larvae live in your body, sometimes ending up in your retina and brain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysticercosis

"When the eggs return to the intestines, the worms hatch and migrate into the skeletal muscles, heart, eyes and even the brain and spinal cord. Once there, they form small encapsulated cysts containing the worm."

Yes, thats right. Worms in your brain. The best (worst) part is you have to be very careful in treating the infection because if the retina is involved you can rupture the cycts and blind the patient.

Mother Nature can be quite an interesting lady at times.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:28 PM
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11. I give you your pork parasite and raise you the candiru fish...
You know that fish in the amazon that ummm likes warm human ummm orifices....
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/2-29-2004-51087.asp
:scared:
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chicagomd Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 11:09 AM
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12. Yeah, thats a good one.
I believe it has sensors that follow the nitrogen in the urine back up to the source.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 03:48 PM
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13. Yum, thanks for the memory lane walk through parasitology
I think.

In any case, pork was never a feature on our dinner table when I was growing up thanks to some bizarre twists and turns of the family tree, although we ate shellfish and frog legs thanks to other twists of it.

I just never learned to eat the stuff. After seeing my acquaintance turn into an old man overnight from trichinosis, I have been grateful.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 04:36 PM
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10. It's just a hypothesis.
But it makes sense. Same thing might be said of bans on promiscuous sex because of STDs.
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