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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:27 PM
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mention of JK on MSNBC tonight
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 10:27 PM by MBS
So the Talking Heads were talking about MA being one of the Tsunami Tuesday states, and Caroline Kennedy's endorsement (Sunday NYT) of Obama, and speculating , "What will Teddy do?"
Howard Fineman's take is that Teddy wanted to stay neutral, as "Elder Statesman" of the party, but also opined that he would be under pressure not just from Caroline, but from the African-American governor of Massachusetts and "his fellow senator, John Kerry, who is a strong supporter of Obama"-- actually said without irony, without criticism, without snark! Miracles do happen.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:59 AM
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1. this made me really happy
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 05:00 PM
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2. also, on Meet the Press Sunday (Jan 27)
I caught the evening rerun of Meet the Press, and Tim Russert quoted 3 Democrats who criticized Bill's M.O. in South Carolina:
James Clyburn, Patrick Leahy , and John Kerry . Timmeh read quotes by Clyburn and Leahy, but played a snippet of JK's radio interview (the part about Bill's "abuses of truth" being "over the top"). Chuck Todd then said something about JK thinking that Clinton could have done more to help in 2004. Again, said without snark, and he seemed to me to imply that it was not just JK's notion that this was true, but instead, the conventional wisdom.

The stupidity and petty snark of The Nation aside,I do think the meme is changing. The MSM has actually been mostly respectful lately: and it's about time.

Cool that JK has take the side of the future of this election. . and, as usual, he did it for real reasons, not for political expediency; he did it BEFORE the bandwagon really got under way , and he did it late enough to honor the process of Iowa and NH, and to respect the candidacies of his colleagues Biden and dodd.

Listening to Teddy's endorsement now. Nice speech, and I do love Teddy. But, you know what? JK's speech was better: more lyrical, more passionate. I'm very proud of everything about JK's endorsement: the timing, the style, the commitment , the class.

How could the Nation possible call JK charisma-challenged? Idiots.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 05:50 PM
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3. I agree with you on the speeches - but I think they work well together
Kennedy's was a barnburner for those with Obama - and it did an excellent job hitting Clinton's strongest talking points against Obama and smashing them to the ground. Following Obama's eloquent victory speech with the wild SC crowd, it continues the excitement and enthusiasm - which only one of the Clinton wins actually generated for them. (The NV win was tainted by the nastiness.)

Kerry's made the case for a view that the media has jumped on. I may be wrong, but I think Kerry was the first to make the case that Obama would be a transformational President and that he, of the three was best suited to be that. That phrase has been used profusely by the media.

Consider Obama's Reagan comment in that light. He is saying that Clinton was not a transformational President. I think I can see why the Clintons exploded - in his serious intellectual comments, Obama embedded the truth (and why it is true) that the Clintons were not transformational leaders. Meanwhile Kerry's definition (uncredited - which is better) of Obama as a potential transformational President was mentioned by many pundits.
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