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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:02 PM
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Kerry's spokeman David Wade on the attack
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 05:15 PM by Mass
I am not sure what Mehlman said about Kerry, but here is David Wade's answer thru CNN and GD.

Did anybody see that and can confirm it?

If yes, Kerry has to make this guy his only spokeperson.


Ken Mehlman's filthy and shameful lie about a decorated combat veteran is disgraceful. Political hack Ken Mehlman and draft dodging, donut eating Rush Limbaugh have something in common. Neither of them know anything about how to make American troops safe. John Kerry will continueto speak out about how to succeed in Iraq and protect brave American troops.

David Wade
John Kerry Spokesman


EDIT : OK, here is Melhman's quote.


"It's fairly extraordinary. I can't remember any time in history where the leader of a national party, one of our 2 national parties, predicted that America would lose a war we were engaged in. I think it sends the wrong message to our troops, the wrong message to the enemy, the wrong message to the Iraqi people just 10 days before the election."

"...You think about it, this isn't anything new. Just this past weekend on Sunday, John Kerry talked about American troops engaged in terroristic and other activity, terrorizing kids and children. He talked about we've already seen Nancy Pelosi embrace a retreat and defeat strategy...you have the Democratic nominee in '04, Democratic national chairman, lead Democrat in the House, have all now come out embrace a retreat and defeat strategy while our country is at war."
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:19 PM
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1. Melhman is incoherent and disgusting
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 05:37 PM by karynnj
terrorizing kids and children??? engaged in terroristic and other activity. Wade's answer is great. The only problem I can see is if the media distorts Kerry's sentence.

Draft dodging, donut eating ????? Rush Limbaugh. That is hilarious. Wade representing a slim fit decorated veteran implicitly makes a nice comparison.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:30 PM
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11. I agree
David should be Kerry's only spokesman. Where was he last year?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:36 PM
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2. Of course, DU is siding with... Melhman
Well, they might as well be, seeing their vicious eagerness to attack Kerry for hitting Melhman back.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:39 PM
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3. but but I remember seeing a million he didn't fight back and let
the SBVT attack him. How can he not answer this statement. (I think Mehlman overshot - because he went far beyond Kerry's words.)
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:45 PM
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5. You surely don't expect
consistency? It's almost funny, the way they kneejerk react to everything Kerry does. Just like O'Reilly and Hannity. I guess Hannity was attacking Kerry last night - Stephanie Miller was talking about it today.

Left and right - they all sound like babbling idiots.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:30 PM
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8. DU thread on it here -- Hannity and that vile lying O'Neill Creature
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:42 PM
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4. Are you serious?
It seems lately that the name "Democratic Underground" is largely ironic. I wish I knew how many of those people are actual freepers.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 07:27 PM
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7. a little Green, a little Red, just in time for Christmas!
Most would like to put Dems underground, it seems to me.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:24 AM
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15. Probably more are actual freepers than we want to know. It is what
they do best: infiltrate. Their style is never direct or honest. If distortion doesn't get the required results, they lie. If they can't sway public opinion, they pay for it. These people will resort to anything and stop at nothing.

That there are freeper agitators here, I've no doubt. But what I'd really like to know how many of these freepers are being paid out of our tax dollars to come here and attack our best and brightest (the biggest threat to the right-wing).
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:05 AM
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16. I think their goal is to make this raise to mainstream
to distract from what should be the stories, Republican corruption and Rice's fridgid welcome in Europe - just because she TOLD them very sternly that they shouldn't even being questioning our rendition and secret prisons, as we're doing it to help them too. (The EU official asking for the information from Senator Kerry had to be designed as a slap in facefor Bush. I don't think Kerry was picked just because of it being his amendment. Given Dr Rice's European comments, I assume they really didn't like Kerry's amendment which got over 80 votes.)
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:29 AM
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17. Great point about the diversion and another great point about
the the "slap in the face" factor. I've been wondering if the EU official asked Senator Kerry specifically for the purpose of slighting the Administration. The news of this was quickly quashed, was it not? And no, "they" probably don't like the amendment or the fact that it is Kerry's, especially given the 80 votes.

Kerry is a big threat on many levels, so they are discrediting him on both sides of the aisle. He'd weathered attacks from the right, so they are trying to surround him now with simultaneous attacks from the left.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:36 AM
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20. it's weird that Kerry's name is never given when they mention the bill
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 08:52 AM by karynnj
McCain's is mentioned every time they talk of torture. But the clandestaine prisons bill apparently wrote itself and introduced itself on the Senate floor without the help of any Senators. I think asking for the information from Sen Kerry specifically was saying they don't trust Bush. (I don't know if the EU person knew the US system well enough to know that Kos hasn't designated Kerry the head of the Democrats.)

I think this attack was almost entirely from the right. From the left, Kerry's words not twisted are fine - at most the use of the word "terrorizing" though entirely correct in its meaning - lends itself to distortion. But, pushing it too much, opens the question Kerry wants openned. He covered this at least in 5 or 6 interviews, in his Georgetown speech and in his Senate speech, where he explained both the danger to the soldiers and the reason it led to increased anger.

Out of all the pieces of Kerry's plan, this is the most intuitive and easiest to understand. No matter what the long term plan is, this is something Bush could do right now. Kerry also pulled in (for I think the first time) Bush's estimate of the number of trained Iraqis. If there are over 100,000 trained Iraqis - why aren't they doing this. (Especially as you could have the Kurds policing the Kurds, the sunnis policing the Sunnis etc to avoid the ethnic cleaning (former Yugoslavia) possibilities.)

What it gets to is that the war DID end with "Mission accomplished". Once they are policing themselves, why are we there? Reading the stuff on the Cario meeting of the Arab league, it sound like we are in Iraq to put a US puppet government in power.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:00 AM
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19. They are not that big a force
I think their goal is to drown out a discussion of the real issue at DU, which has more potential to impact the mainstream.

On the other point, that was a big slap in the face for Bush, but an international one, can't call that partisan.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 05:46 PM
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6. David Wade is pretty good
Yeah, his comments are usually tough and hit the target. He's in the Senate office, not the PAC, as far as I know.

We're still having server issues with the company that bought out our old provider. So my Lightup email isn't coming through. Grrrr.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:00 PM
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9. I love that "donut eating" line
This guy rules
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:15 PM
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10. me too
Rush is nothing but a drug addict buffoon.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:31 PM
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12. That really was good
Of course the right would probably say he doesn't like overweight people. :eyes:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:35 PM
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13. I love this comment! Go get 'em honey!
Oh David, honey, you make me so proud. I couldn't have said it better myself.

My Mass version: You tell that little snot-nosed piece of shit, closeted, liar Mehlman that he should come over and say that coward shit to my face. Yeah, that's right, I'm talking to you Mehlman, you wimp. You and the rest of that chickenhawk contingent of tough-talking, draft-evading posers can kiss my Mass-hole. Fer chrissakes. And as for Limballs, I've stepped in better crap than him on a hot sidewalk. He's obviously taken one too many oxycontin again and is hallucinating. 'Aiding terrorists,' my fat ass. How dare you insult a real veteran who actually fought in a real war and still has the shrapnel pieces in 'em from actually friggin getting shot at. If this bunch was ever shot at by so much as a slingshot, we'd be buying 'em new underwear at K-Mart. Bastards. Bite me!

Oh David. I am going to start framing these things. They are absolutely perfect. I just love them. (You speak for me honey. I have no idea if people like Mr. Wade go to events like the party/fundraiser in Boston on Sunday, but if he does and I can find 'em, honey the first round's on me!)

Oh boy is that ever perfect.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 08:47 PM
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14. Approve!
David did a great job. I also like the additional adjectives in your post.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 07:36 AM
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18. Perfect statement from David Wade!
I think Kenny needs to lace up a pair of combat boots and head over to Iraq to help out with the cause. Then and only then can he criticize Senator Kerry. I'd also suggest that Rush join up too, but I think they make you pee in a cup before enlisting and we all know that's one test he just couldn't pass.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:33 PM
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21. OMG.
That is PRICELESS!!!
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