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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 07:59 AM
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They will not give up:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 08:12 AM
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1. I can't post there right now, I don't have my account information
with me.
For once though, I would like to see all these people scrutinize Bush's records as closely as they have Kerry's. For that matter why don't they double check on McCain's too. Repubs get s pass, but Dem's get challenged.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:08 AM
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2. I working on some responses to this
I'll post them here when I get them done. If anyone can spread them around it will be appreciated. These assholes aren't going to go away easy.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:24 AM
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3. Thanks KG!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:24 PM
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7. There are 2 easy glaring mistakes w/ Peck
In the Brinkley book, pages 152 -153, Peck is one of the very few people who Brinkiey quoted as NOT likeing Kerry.

Page 153
"As one of his fitness reports point out, Peck had a "machine gun mentality" completely at odds with Kerry's more reflective ways. Peck's own men on the PCF-57 - a crew that Kerry would soon inherit - all knew that their skipper was too quick to anger. And the one guy who got Peck's ire up the quickest was John Kerry, whom he found standoffish and condescending. "I didn't like anything about him," Peck Proclaimed. "Nothing." For his part, Kerry liked Peck, and decades later recalled none of this supposed animousity between them."

To put Peck's comment on standoffish and condescending, here's Peck's comments on page 152 on his own men:

" I told them to get the hell out of my room. I was their boss. I didn't fraternize with these guys, memorizing their mother's birthdays abd crap like that." (Gee, who likely did "crap" like that?)

<My conjecture, Peck likely resents that "his" men Del etc clearly love Kerry, not him. >

The other discrepancy is that Peck was seriously injured on January 29 (page 261). So, he was not there in the February or March time frame when Kerry was.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 11:58 AM
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4. Some info
Here's Fred Kaplan's response to the Cambodia stuff from 2004. He is usually a reliable source, maybe somebody can use the info in here.

http://www.slate.com/id/2105529/
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:28 PM
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5. Thanks!
Ron posted that in the comments of another thread the other day.

There's a pinned thread in the DemDaily Forum I put up today to post resources for fighting this crap. http://forum.thedemocraticdaily.com/viewtopic.php?t=151

I'm so pissed about this!
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 04:31 PM
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6. Good article.
It seems absurd to me that, when you pick off all the other charges one by one, they still come back with the silliest of all, this Cambodia thing.
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