Another '08 poll!

That's a cute poll, btw. Who do you dislike right now. Geez.

the rest is just brainwashing by the media.

- considering the huge media bush for Gore and the long term push for Hillary - this is not bad for Kerry. McCain and Guiliani have significantly lower definately not vote for. In Guilliani's case most outside the NYC area don't know his nagatives. (Hint: he won't get the woman's vote when it's known he announced his divcorce on TV before telling his wife.) McCain has only started to get any negative press and it's already hurt - only 12% definately want him.

picking up many primary votes in certain red areas of the country. He'd have to really exploit the hell out of 9/11, and we all know Republicans are above doing that. :sarcasm: Seriously though, I think his numbers are too high at this point.

seemed to go cross dressed won't cut it in the Bible belt? (He makes an extremely ugly woman)

that was his first wife. he dumped her for Donna which is the one that he dumped on TV.

i hope he does run and it gets ugly between him and other republicans. Giuliani seems like the type to hold a grudge and hopefully he is treated so badly by them that he stops whoring for them. of course he will continue whoring in order to benefit himself and his company by exploiting 9/11. but maybe we can stop with the "america's mayor" crap.

While he was still married, and the wife and child still lived there. That'll go over real big, don'tcha think? :eyes:

claiming he didn't know she was a first cousin. He claimed he thought she was a second cousin. Not very believable.

I didn't know that

His negatives in NYC were pretty high before 911. Also, after 911, he floated the idea that he should stay on as mayor longer than his term - this went over like a lead balloon in NYC even in the aftermath of 911.

His actual accomplishments are mixed. The city was far cleaner and safer at the end of his term than when he came in. Republicans credit this to his get tough policies. He was also helped by demographic changes (the proportion in the teen/young adult age group fell), a rising economy, and the crack cocaine epidemic lessening. The improvement was real.

The improvement led to gentrification which led to neighborhoods being more stable and nicer - if you could afford it. Part of the perceived improvement was done by moving the problem out of sight. A friend of mine who worked near Madison Square Garden told us that before any big concert, the police would bus the homeless out of the area. They also got rid of the annoying squeegie people who would come up to people queueing to get into the tunnels to drive back to NJ and "cleaned" your windshield and asked for money.

On the negative side, his tough law and order often went over the line.

but I also know a lot of NYers couldn't stand him ... my sister moved there in 2001 and I remember her not liking him at all pre-9/11

makes it a little hard to swallow!

This tells me that people haven't translated this Republican corruption and cronyism to Republicans in general and still trust the moderate Republicans more than Democrats. We've still got an image problem because people shouldn't be more willing to vote for McCain or Giuliani than any Democrat at all. I bet you put other Democrats up there and the numbers would be about the same or possibly even worse. This really doesn't bode well for the fall, it's not going to be as easy as running a Dem and yelling corruption. Lord knows it really should be.

there would be more in the I don't know category and possibly in the maybe category. What it does show is that all the Democrats likely need to convert some "definately nots".

We shouldn't have that large a number of definitely nots against the people who are the standard bearers of the party. I suspect any Democrat at the national level would get that kind of visceral reaction because that's how good Republicans are at smearing and branding our candidates.

Just from what I see on DU, I am positive that there are people, counterparts to those on DU, who are anti-war, liberal people who say they won't support Kerry.

In fact, there's a post on Dkos with a poll that lets you identify which 1 or which 2 or all three that you won't vote for. There is NO way to say you would vote for all 3.

I agree that all 3 of these people have been smeared. I do think they actively need to win additional people over. As to the polls, it will be more interesting in a year and in actual Republican/Democrat match ups.

the saying that you only get one shot and that's it. :-(

be Prez. His day will come soon, I deeply believe...with all our unwaivering efforts and energies...and his continued "candid" let-Kerry-be-Kerry" speeches.

It's a GD post. I do agree the Dems have an image problem. How can all these people be so stupid? :-(

of a 2004 loser who interrepts that her favorite could be a Knight on a shiny horse and get really high positives and low negatives. I do thing that all three need to work on the negatives. (Also, only one has gotten no positive press worth talking about and he is doing as well as the other 2.)

against 3 less known repubs. By know, both Clinton (Bill or Hill), Gore and Kerry have been scrutinized by the media is the worst negative way. Everybody knows them and has an opinion.

Concerning Guliani, McCain and Jeb, they are less well known to the public. They still have not been submitted to media scrutiny, so a lot of people are still "undecided". In this light, people view Guliani, McCain, and particularly Jeb very negatively.

That is if this poll has any meaning, which I doubt strongly.