Okay, I have some sensitive questions about the Democrats.

What exactly happened this week? Was Kerry being undermined by people in his own party? Like, for example, the fact that the time hadn't been allotted for the Kerry/Feingold amendment, and then Levin immediately wanted to be out of there. And the fact that that debate was so late at night, after the evening news broadcasts. And that NYT hit piece -- was there, in fact, some truth in there? Why was Warner so nice to Kerry? Was it just because of the McConnell fiasco last week, or did he witness meanspiritedness even from the other side of the aisle that led him to intervene and try to right the wrong done to Kerry. What happened???? Because I feel like Kerry, with a few backers, was left to fend for himself without it being set up. And being relegated to the night shift. I realize this is politics, but it doesn't mean it's excuseable. What happened to professionalism and letting everyone have their say?

But, the positive news is that 7 MORE Senators supported withdrawal timetable than they did last week - so what number is GROWING and what number is shrinking?

We are winning this eventually, so keep the pressure up. Kerry and Feingold are proving that none of the others will be able to defend themselves much longer for staying the course - and certainly not for the 10 rounds of Dem debates.

The Democratic Party does not want to be forced to take difficult stances. They believe they can marginalize the 'lefties' like Kerry and Feingold and shut them up. They believe this will enhance centrist candidates. It a preemptive strike that seeks to shut the mouths of the 'troublemakers' in the Party.

It won't work. This is not '92 or '96. Kerry learned something and is applying that knowledge. The Dems with Shivs didn't and will lose.

doesn't trust the DLC/Clinton faction. I do agree with you though. And what they did was allow the Repubs to jump all over it talking about a divided party. Shame on them.

Kos just put up on the front page an entry about the Iraq vote that didn't even mention the Kerry/Feingold amendment. WTF? And then talked about Democrats uniting. You know, the beauty of the blogosphere is that we are NOT up for election, and we can just have pure ideas. But Kos is so obviously compromised, it's unbelievable. He is obviously against this war, yet the amendment that he should have rallied the troops on, he completely ignores.

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2006/6/22/114513/237/99#c99

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Why is this post all about the Levin amendment, which is ONLY a sense of the Senate, in contrast to the Kerry/Feingold amendment which would actually be law? I thought dKos was about the people and urging our elected officials to do the right thing. Yet Kos is propping up a lame "sense of the Senate" toothless amendment that means less than nothing. Kerry graciously voted yes for it, but it is SO meaningless. Where was your post, Markos, supporting the Kerry/Feingold amendment? Why do you now seem to only tow the party line as set forth by Harry Reid? Look, I'm happy you're doing well, and I love the layout of this website, but I thought you wanted our troops to come home!!! The Levin amendment DOES NOT DO THAT. Help me out here, because I am confused and disappointed with the lack of support this site gave to Kerry/Feingold. The fact that they came together was a way to neutralize any pre-'08 primary fighting that might have taken place. If we in the blogosphere (and let's face it, it's GOT to include the big names like Kos here) aren't going to come together ON THE FRONT PAGE to bring our troops home, then NOBODY will.

Anyway, y'all missed an awesome debate between Warner and Kerry last night. It was like the OLD senate, and it was incredibly moving and brilliant.

I'm just a little sad right now.

by beachmom on Thu Jun 22, 2006 at 10:20:26 AM PDT

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That guy NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT on his hypocricy. He is so obviously following orders from Harry Reid, it's pathetic.

I just entered a post on Kos before seeing this. Links to my story at Democratic Daily, which has many more links:

http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=3392

On edit, I wanted to add, your post is awesome!

Kos is the "left's" biggest hypocrite and you are right, this needs pointed out at every possible chance.

That is an apt description. I mean, if we want a mainstream pundit, I'll take the ragin' Cajun James Carville over Kos, because at least he's entertaining. Kos really is DLC. And here's the thing -- Warner is WAY better than the people who work for him. He doesn't know that the people who work for him are shady. If I ever meet Warner, I'll be a good Samaritan and tell him what I know (hey, we grew up in the same town -- I owe him that).

Sigh -- the MSM ALWAYS pick up the wrong stories. I'm going to bet you guys something -- I bet you Kos hits have gone DOWN since YearlyKos. You know why? Because navel gazing is . . . BORING!! I'm bored with the characters over there. And although I'm not a fan of TNR, it's good that SOMEBODY is getting the dirt on Kos and others, so nobody big in the Party gets hurt. Has anyone else found dKos lame lately? Last week and this week should have been Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, nothing but Iraq practically. Instead it was stuff like the minimum wage and other issues. Yes, those things are important, but not when there is a VOTE in the Senate on something so important. DailyKos sucks. I wish we could steal the technology and just change the content.

Because Kos has now decided it's more important for him to fawn over his influence with Harry Reid and the centrist "libertarian Democrat" (whatever the FUCK that is) faction while still feebly trying to convince everyone that he's a "progressive." Seriously, you have to be about six degrees too dumb to buy his schtick after he spends a fortune on a SELF-NAMED convention designed to stroke his own ego as he hobnobs with the centrists of the party (which, I know you like him, but Warner definitely is. I have no problem with Warner being more conservative so much as I have a problem that Kos wants to continue to lie about how much he hates the DLC while he eagerly panders to Warner, who is a veritable DLC poster boy). His hypocrisy is so blindingly transparent it continues to boggle my mind that his dittoheads cannot see through him.

Kos is one of the most pathetic characters I have ever encountered in the world of politics, and in that profession, that's saying a whole hell of a lot.

Swift Boat Liar trolls. I think the community erased one troll, but there is another one still there. His/her userid is "Tall Talker". If anyone is a trusted user, go and troll rate the comment "Hap River". He's not a lefty freeper. He's a REAL freeper. Scary, scary, scary. Well, he can't spell worth a damn!!

I guess if you don't post for a while that happens? I can still recommend.

speeches. There after the elections when I remember reading their posts while watching a Senate hearing - and it was excellent. I hadn't found the Kerry group yet. So, after following our posts and the DU-P posts during the Kerry/Warner debate, I thought I'd go see what they had.

They had a diary on Santorum's newly discovered in 2003 WMD and a diary on how bad Lieberman was in his comments. Nothing on either Feingold or Kerry. (I guess they don't love Feingold anymore.)

I guarantee if Feingold had rejected Kerry's plan, proposed his plan by himself, and blown Kerry off, he'd still be a hero. However, he decided to work WITH Kerry, so they can't use him to bash Kerry anymore. Which shows that they never really cared ABOUT Feingold but just about how they could USE Feingold to trash Kerry. The same is happening with Gore right now; 90% of those people could give a shit about Gore, they just like to use Gore for their own purposes and make him the anti-Kerry. If Gore and Kerry did some joint venture tomorrow the dittoheads would drop Gore like a rock.

just to co-opt them for Warner later on for if/when Feingold got caught in the moneycrunch problem. There was nothing consistent about Kos' reasonings.

I watched Feingold's speech yesterday, and he was AWESOME!! I love that guy. I'm not really a hater. Most of the Dems mentioned for '08 I at least like. And I'm only mad at Hillary for her position on Iraq, which I think is lame. I also have issues with "legacy".

But I have been puzzled with the lack of support for the Kerry/Feingold amendment. Those are two of the most liberal members of the Senate, and there has been little enthusiasm for this alliance.

Maybe is this also due to the YearlyKos hoopla? Kos has decided he's more important than what goes on in the Senate. New Ideas (did you see that fawning post about Edwards -- is he now going to be the new flavor of the week with his anti-poverty program?) from bloggers are more important now over there than the business of the Senate? Sorry, but no. Kos is a total idiot -- this is bad business, at least for his blog. I did miss a few things myself (I wasn't on line the day of Kerry's post, plus weren't there site problems that day), so maybe it was a bad coincidence. But the Alito filibuster was a MUCH BIGGER DEAL. And Kos got to charge more for ad space because of that enthusiasm. I think we're headed into a "Bad Kos Season". Ignore or Bash Kerry posts may be coming soon . . . I've got a BAD feeling about this.