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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 01:35 PM
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Peter Daou joins team Hillary?
Et tu, Peter?

http://daoureport.salon.com/synopsis.aspx?synopsisId=414d1caa-a172-4ac1-a55e-19c937ce3dc1

Which brings me to the point of this blog post: I have been offered – and accepted – what I believe is a unique opportunity to help close the triangle: joining Senator Clinton’s team as a blog advisor to facilitate and expand her relationship with the netroots. There are endless possibilities for Clinton-netroots collaborations, from Net Neutrality to the Privacy Bill of Rights to voting reform to so many others critical issues. Digby, one of the progressive blog world’s sharpest writers, said this: “Last week Hillary introduced what I think should be a primary plank of the Democratic Party: A Privacy Bill Of Rights…. Hillary said in her speech the other day: ‘privacy is synonymous with liberty.’ This is correct. We give it up far too thoughtlessly in our culture and its going to come back to bite us if we don't wake to the fact that big powerful forces are poking into our lives in unprecedented ways and will use the information they get to force us into little boxes they design.”


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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 01:39 PM
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1. Oh. I guess he's moved on. To be expected, but I really liked him
and wished he had decided to work for Kerry, but I suppose career wise, Hillary is at this time the better bet. If we are to believe the punditocracy.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 01:44 PM
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2. It's getting
closer to the elections, people are making their allegiance know. Good luck!

JK all the way!
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 04:00 PM
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3. It's a job
We can afford to support candidates on line based upon who we prefer. For those who do this for a living, it is often necessary to take the best job offers they get. For someone living in New York this must have been an offer too difficult to ignore.

It is interesting that Hillary is giving in and paying more attention to the blogs.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 04:38 PM
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5. I wonder though how she will interact with them
It might not be fais but I perceive Hillary as being "level conscious". I honestly don't know why I have that feeling, but I can't picture her really LISTENING to people not in her elite circle. I'm sure she would be cordial and nice, though.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:13 PM
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8. Maybe she will turn out to be un-blog worthy.
I just don't see her pulling this off. IMO, her personality doesn't mess with the blogs and I really question her motives in pursuing this connection now. It will be interesting to watch.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 04:22 PM
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4. Answers many questions. n/t
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 04:41 PM
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6. I agree. N/T
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:03 PM
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7. I am sorry to hear this.
Peter was way ahead of the curve on really thinking through what the growth of blogs and the internet mean to politics. Too bad.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:43 PM
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9. More info on this diary
Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 09:50 PM by beachmom
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/26/214928/581

WaPo:
New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has pulled off a major coup in her evolving relationship with the liberal blogosphere.

She has hired Peter Daou, author of the Daou Report (a blog on Salon.com) and the director of blog operations for the 2004 presidential campaign of Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry. Daou will join Clinton's senate race fundraising committee, "Friends of Hillary."



The diarist and the commenters seem to be universal in being very unhappy with this. I think there's one thing that pretty much unites the liberal blogosphere and that's that nobody wants her as the candidate for president. I realize the blogs were for Dean in '04, but the blogosphere has matured since then, and it's hard to fathom a win without at least SOME blog support, something I've seen very little of for Hillary.

Edited to add: Actually, I'm wrong. Hillary definitely has supporters or at least people who defend her. I'm reading more of the comments and there are people going after the diarist.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 10:08 PM
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10. Interesting diary...
Like Ron said, it's a job - Peter has made this his livlihood.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 10:31 PM
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11. I'm having fun now. I just counselled a Clinton supporter.
He was really insulting to the Kossacks "Kosborgs" -- I like that. But really, such an arrogant attitude isn't going to win anyone over. So I told him he should make his case, provide links, and comment more often to better the community. Ha!! I want to feel sorry for the Clinton supporters, but they're really kind of jerks -- they remind me of Bullmoose and Andrew Sullivan. Yuck, yuck, yuck. Hillary is practically in the Lieberman corner.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 10:47 PM
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12. LOL!
I read the comments there and on the Daou. I'm still surprised by this in some regards...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 06:25 AM
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13. NY Times article today
A Well-Known Political Blogger Is Hired by the Clinton Campaign

By RAYMOND HERNANDEZ
Published: June 27, 2006
WASHINGTON, June 26 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign has hired Peter Daou, one of the most prominent political bloggers in the nation, to help disseminate her message in a forum that has not always been that hospitable to her.

The move underscores the degree to which bloggers — the authors of Web logs, or blogs — have begun to transform American politics. In many cases, candidates have even set up their own blogs, with staffers answering questions, presenting policy proposals and posting campaign literature and videos.

Mrs. Clinton, who is up for re-election this year and is a possible presidential candidate for 2008, has been a frequent target of bloggers, particularly liberals who are angry over her refusal to disavow her vote in 2002 to authorize President Bush to use force in Iraq.

more...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/27/nyregion/27hillary.html
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 08:38 AM
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14. I don't doubt for a minute that his hiring has more to do with 08
than 06. It is good to know we are recognized and "important" now. I suppose more politicians will be jumping on board soon. I hope Kerry hires someone equally qualified if not more so for his team. It is sad though to have him go over to Clinton now.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-27-06 10:16 AM
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15. Ok, so Peter Daou is a scoop for team Hillary, but..
frankly, I think she has so many negatives, even Peter will have a hard time helping her.

People will vote for her opponent just based on her last name.

That's a shame.

Others will vote no because she's a woman.

That's a shame.

Others will vote no because they know her voting pattern.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 06:42 AM
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16. Cenk Uygur: The Daou Index
Cenk Uygur
06.28.2006
The Daou Index

Peter Daou is one of the most astute and aggressive bloggers in the country. Senator Hillary Clinton is the poster child for equivocation and triangulation. So, it was interesting news when we found out that Senator Clinton has hired Peter Daou to be her web consultant. Hillary hiring Peter Daou is a little like Nixon going to China.

I know Peter and consider him a friend. I know for a fact that he understands the problems with the Democratic establishment and what needs to be done to fix it. And as much as anyone, Hillary Clinton is the Democratic Party establishment.

So, that sets up an interesting question. Will Mohammed go to the mountain or will the mountain come to Mohammed?

There are three possibilities:

1. Hillary will actually listen to what Peter has to say and adjust her views and actions.
2. They will not be able to see eye to eye and Peter will be ignored and then will eventually leave the job.
3. Peter will become an apologist for Hillary’s current stances on things like Iraq, which are hideous and morally repugnant.

I would be really disappointed if option number two were to happen. I would be crushed if option three did. I was thinking of talking to Peter before writing this, but decided it would be better just to write it because I would feel bad even writing option number three down after I talked to him personally.

more...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/the-daou-index_b_23940.html
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:07 AM
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17. good post. That's what I thought as well. (that same list!)
But I think Hillary learned by two things recently:

1. TBA conference where the activists booed her.

2. Daily kos reunion right before it.

She's not dumb. I like the idea of Hillary becoming a President, but I liked her views better before she went to Congress than after. Does that make sense?

Seems like she was more forthright and straightfoward before she decided to be so wishy-washy middle. I don't like many of her votes. I understand that she's moderate. And all of us don't agree 100% with any candidate (usually) therefore I understand that people will have a hodge-podge of votes. But I can't abide her Iraq stance. Overall, she's doing a better job than my own democratic senator.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 08:57 AM
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18. Let's call it "Clinton fatigue" and it doesn't just inflict the Right
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 08:59 AM by beachmom
It's actually NOT the scandals. It's the fact that Bill Clinton broke so many promises to liberals during his presidency. If people want to talk about when Democrats became docile in the face of the Right, we're going to have to start with Clinton. Like what about gays in the military? He caved on that, when if he had stuck to his guns, we would have had hundreds more Arabic translators, and thousands of more good soldiers to fight this war on terror now. And there are countless more examples just like that.

So now here we sit with Hillary, who is sometimes even more hawkish than the president (read her statements on Iran). Maybe that's good "politics", but it doesn't make it right. Hillary is obviously much better than any Republican. But let's take a look at Kerry's energy independence proposal. Do you think that Hillary would do anything like that if she became president? I doubt it. She would probably put together some compromise bill that didn't piss off the oil interests too much, that would be marginally better than the Bush approach, but would be so wishy washy that it would accomplish very little. All the pundits would praise her for the victory, and meanwhile, green gas emissions would still go up. That's the way I envision a Hillary presidency. Once again, she would easily get my vote in the General, but she's got a LONG way to go to come close to convincing me to vote for her in the primary.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:03 AM
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19. Amen. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 09:15 AM
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20. Second that! n/t
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:27 PM
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21. He will have to hire someone just as qualified
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 09:47 PM by politicasista
Yesterday, at another board, I posted the BET.article describing about Condi running (she don't need to run!) in 08, just to spice up some discussion and see replies cause Kerry's name is still not popular cause of the 04 election, but the replies were you could say NBH (Nobody But Hillary) and Oprah Winfrey as her running mate. (LOL!) Some of them were not political junkies, but the replies were interesting.

Despite the Anti-Hillary sentiment here, the Clinton factor is still (8 years of peace and prosperity) popular elsewhere.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:46 PM
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22. See, I don't get that.
I like Hillary. She's a pretty good senator, IMO, and she's a bright and attractive woman. Bill was a good President. I'm not sure if he'd be a great 'first man'. I think he'd have a difficult time of it.
I just don't understand how people can think there are only two families in this country who can represent us in the executive branch.
No dynasties! No more Clinton, no more bush*. One more person from either family and we'll have to start putting roman numerals after their names. Doesn't that bother people? It sure as hell bothers me.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:50 PM
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24. I think it's mainly cause they want to see Bill back in the WH
Never mind his snafus or policies, the perception is that life was good under the Clintons, so why not Hillary? Plus, he charmed them (i.e. Toni Morrison's comment "the first Black president." ok, I am being repetitive again. .:silly:

I am with you. We don't need anymore political dynasties.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:48 PM
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23. It needs to be pointed out that Senator Clinton is not Bill Clinton
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 09:55 PM by wisteria
and these times are not at all like the nineties. I am a firm believer in not being able to go back and rekindle what has come and gone. Senator Kerry can bring us all better days, but we now have major conflicts and world resentments to heal. H.Clinton does not have the expertise or hands on experience Kerry has to heal the wounds over seas.
Personally, I think people hoping to bring back the Clinton past will be disappointed and may just turn to the Republicans in 2012 if H. Clinton is able to pull of a Presidential win. Frankly, I hope she doesn't make it that far,I really doesn't want to have to vote for her simply because she is the Democratic nominee.Also, DU is not the only site that isn't NBH, there are others as well as many average Americans that will come right out and say, "well if she is the candidate,I won't vote for her". I hear this all the time. As a matter of fact, I have come across only two people who would support her and that is only because they think her name will get her in.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:53 PM
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25. That is the biggest concern too
Especially if Bill keeps hanging around Pappy Bush.



On a sidenote, I have started posting about Kerry focuing on media diversity which has no replies as of yet. So much for people complaining that the Dems don't do anything for AA.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 09:57 PM
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26. Some people like to complain and others, no matter what you do,
well it is never enough.
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