KOEB Meeting -- 12/8/05: The "Imagine" Edition

RIP, John. :loveya:

I've got a meeting tonight, and probably won't be back anytime soon. So snark a little snark for me, light a candle, and send up lots of :loveya: to Keith, to John, and to whatever dreamboat shows up on the show tonight.

:hi:

No yelling, 'k? :)

I will send up :loveya:s. I hope it's not Craig. I'd hate for you to miss him. Good night, and good luck!

Double floatys for Craig :loveya: or David :loveya:, especially if they offer up a snarkrifice.

Believe it or not, I'm planning on keeping my mouth shut tonight. :)

(how's that for snark?)

hope you're feeling better, rev!! :)

dg

How could that be? :shrug:

:spank:

I whispered. ;)

I was thinking maybe you had a taser and a few unwary parishioners got slain by the Spirit, if you know what I mean...

:think: !


I wonder if I can still get a taser in my budget for next year.

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :hug: :grouphug: :hug:

strawberry fields. :( john lennon. that night i saw a very ugly side to my parents. i came home from my "want fries with that?" high school job to find my parents cheering the news that he had been murdered. i thought i was looking at strangers; i'd never seen them act like that before. i wasn't much of a beatles/lennon fan or agree with his stance on the vietnam war at the time, but i did think it was wrong to react to the death of someone, regardless of how you felt about that person, the way my parents did that night. the next day, my friends were all bummed out & my civics teacher cried & cried, pretty much solidifying the feeling i'd had the night before that my parents were horribly wrong in reacting as they did. is it any wonder i started to drift away from them emotionally?

dg

That's a story. Glad you're here, now, just as you are. :loveya:

I've been to Strawberry Fields, and that mosaic. Today, Yoko walked across the street and put a bouquet down on it, with all the people standing there. Very sad. :(

:loveya: too. :)

dg

I can't see cheering the news that ANYONE has been murdered. :hug: Yes, we should definitly stop off at Strawberry Fields. :D

How are you doing, girl? Long time no chat in the thread! :D

freezing my butt off because i don't have a heater in this house except for space heaters (looong story). brrrrrrrrr for this south texas gal. any volunteers to come help keep me warm? (male, straight, available, intelligence & sense of humor a must; strong constitution as well because you might have to meet my family some day :evilgrin: )

yah, that night was truly surreal. my parents taught me a great many good things, which is why i was stunned by their actions (and also why i'm a dem today...what they taught me isn't evident at all in today's gop). do as i say, not as i do? :wtf: who the hell are you people & what did you do with my parents????? it was very scary & i really didn't know how to stand up for myself at the time (yeah, i know, :wow: but it's true; people who knew me in high school were absolutely gobsmacked to find out i became an attorney; people who know me now can't imagine me with anything but a big mouth, loud voice, & strong opinion.), so i just said "good night" & went to bed.

dg

I guess on the bright side that means the house is very well ventilated. :D

yes, it is good to have a house that breathes...except when a damn blue norther comes through!!

brrrrrr

dg

My memories are very vivid, and no one in my college dorm was cheering. We were just stunned. We all seemed to know and love the Beatles. To think that John had been murdered was unthinkable.

Dan and Keith did a nice tribute to him on Dan's radio show today--pieces of his music were played and they talked about him a lot. On a SPORTS show. Keith said he happened to be DJ'ing on his old college radio station that night--he had come back for a visit to Cornell and they let him DJ, and the news that John had been shot came over while he was on the air there. They had just finished playing "In My Life" when they heard that John was dead.

So, Keith announced that, too.

We need a picture of him:



There, that's better.

:hi: Thanks for that.

and a warm if belated :hi: to all KOEB friends.

that was nice.

oh, and the sentiments were okay too. ;)


dg

Oh, how sick!

My parents and I cried under the Christmas tree. I remember that like it was yesterday and I was only 10.

P.S. Sorry to call your parents sick. :hug:

Nice to see you. There were no cheers in my house either. Keith looks yummy this evening. How are ya?

Not that that is bad.

I looked over and, yick, Paul "the Comb" Wolfowitz was on. :puke:

:hi: Pats. Nice to see you, too!

So, what do you think Vivica said?

Gray, Grecian Formula, whatever. Still snarky and dreamy. :loveya:

I envy you.

He is a bad man. A very, very bad man.

Whew...

he looks very good tonight.

dg

i only saw it that one time, but :wow: . made me wonder if/when i'd see it again & under what circumstances.

:hug:

dg

and being suprised because she's very old fashioned, but she know enough that he fought for peace and that touched her.
well, sweetie, you turned out fine despite them, good on you. :hug:

with a similar story, they said their parents said 'he deserved to die, he was a Communist.' It's very hard to understand such thoughts.

Mr. Bunny had a dream the night BEFORE it happened in 1980. He dreamed he was walking along the beach with John Lennon and John Lennon turned to him and said he was dead. The next day, the day of the killing, we went to see 'Raging Bull' in a late afternoon movie, then we walked back to our apartment in the Village and stopped in at the florist around the corner called Fantasy Flowers (Double Fantasy had just been released you remember). The guy in the florist shop said to us 'Did you hear, they caught the guy who shot Lennon?' We had been in the movie and so we hadn't heard anything about him being shot yet. When we clarified with the florist just what he was talking about, Mr. Bunny looked pale and then he kind of slumped down on his knees and laid on the floor, almost fainted. True story. It was the only time he had a dream like that. Very, very freaky. From 1977 to 1979 I lived in an apartment building right across from the Dakota, right off of Central Park West. I saw John and Yoko in the deli on the corner of Columbus and 72nd all the time, but I was always too shy to say hello. I've always regreted that.

Mr. Bunny and I were also having a picnic out on the piers at the West Side Highway in October of 1980 when John had his birthday. Yoko hired skywriters to write Happy Birthday John in the sky and we could see it clearly from down on the piers. What a loss to the world. I often think about him now, and what a giant thorn he'd be in the side of this administration. In fact, if he had lived, we might never had even had this administration, he was that spiritual a presence on this earth.

I was in my senior year of HS. I remember hearing it on TV, then going into my room to play Beatles records and cry.

Just how long have you and Mr. Bunny been together? You seem to be perfect for each other.

perfect together in our imperfectness.

Rev, did you get my response to your thread about your mom? I saw it late and posted.

All my best to you and your family with the difficult time you are all going through. I remember when my dad was sick. It really sucks.

We're surviving. We have a meeting with the people from hospice on Monday. Right now, we're all pretty comfortable with the idea. And if it helps her deal with her pain, then all the better.

So glad you & Mr. Bunny found each other. You deserve nothing but happiness!

And hugs to BunnyDad's family. It's a tough road, and one which each of us will eventually follow. I'm here for ya, if you need to talk. :hug:

Thanks, bunny.

:)

Very freaky dream.
It's nice to know someone else was already married in 1980. We were living in New York and I woke up to my uncle (Dave Herman, who was a DJ on WNEW) talking about it. That's how I heard about it. Very sad day.

Got married in 1984.

Still, you've been married only 7 years less than we have.

There are a few people in this administration I might react that way to (please forgive me), but no one else.

Got out of work early, since I came in early.

We have some execs there today. You'd think JLO and Pope Benedict were there, the way people were stressing out! Heck...they don't even rate Ashlee Simpson on the panic scale, ya know???

It's a nice evening to be warm and cozy inside. :D

I've missed everyone SO much!

It's like a good ol' fashioned meetin'! Ashlee Simpson NEVER rates the panic scale, IMHO. :)

DJ AM and Nicole Richie split; Danny Bonaduce is going to pose nekkid; Howard Stern's on O'Reilly; and I have to go into work early, so I can't write anything for Jossip. Grrr...

The good side: I'm hone early to be with y'all!

Hi Everyone. I have to go chauffeur kiddies so I have to miss the crucial first fifteen minutes, I'll probably get back just in time for Oddball. Oh joy.

I've missed everyone. Been in remodelling hell (and teaching overdrive). I wake up screaming about appliances and grout. It's frightening, and time consuming. There's a bathtub in my living room.

I'll check back in a bit.
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

Good to see ya! :hi:

How's your mom doing?

Her heart went back to the right rhythm now, but she's a little worried it'll go wrong again. We're just waiting to see at this point. How's life in your neck of the woods?

market myself (always my least favorite part of it), trying not to be too much of a slacker mom, and redecorating all at the same time (way too time consuming). Next week the kitchen gets demolished and we'll be eating take-out for awhile. Mr. Bunny is away on business, he's coming back tonight, ahead of the blizzard we are getting I hope (of course, a blizzard to New Yorkers is 3 inches, something my friends from Chicago would always rib me about).

Good luck with all of that. :D

though, so we are very worried. My Republican sister in law is flying up next weekend from Tennessee to discuss what we are going to do about the situation.

Good thoughts to you.....

Missed ya, bunny. Didn't mean to make you cry. :hi:

channel that won't come on is MSNBC. I can finally watch Keef and now I can't.
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Don't know what's up. Anybody else in the NY metro area not able to get their MSNBC, or does Keith just not like me anymore. A girl could get paranoid.

That's horrible. I'm sure he's not mad at you -- unless there's something you'd like to share with the rest of the group?

:blush:

Cable crisis, eh? Very sad! :hug:

I don't want Joe Lieberman as SoD, but I certainly don't want Rummy.

And it'd be nice to get Liberman out of the way, anyway. If it happened, how would they replace him?

How are you this evening, Patsela?

The weather's beautiful, KO looks great, there's new GJ activity. What more could a girl want?

Replace who? Lieberman in the Senate? Is it an appointment? Or a special election? I don't know.

Oooh, Lawrence O'Donnell. For the Rev: :loveya:

ed: sp

:loveya:

he's been saying dems should get behind the c-i-c. he's auditioning for a role in the shrubbie admin...to think i wasted a vote on him!!!!!!!


also, it makes me want to smack gore up one side of his head for picking him over edwards. :grr:

dg

but Gore still won the popular vote -- and the election!

but he would have had VP Brutus stabbing him in the back the whole time.

dg

He'd probably be talking Social Security, Medicare and pro-Israel talk at condos. He'd have been down here so much, he'd have bought a house here by now. I think under Gore, he'd have been benign. Bland as toast.

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

Call me Patsy. Hi, ralps! :hi:

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

Nice to see new faces. Welcome!

that day.

I always remember what Yoko told Sean after John died: "Daddy is part of God now."

The next time little Clara asks about her daddy, I'm going to tell Lisa to say that.

Then, right after that, she shafted poor Julian. :)

A perfect man he wasn't, a good father to his first child he wasn't.

That aside, there was still a lot to be said for him.

And what a wonderful pic. :hi:

thanks for posting! :loveya:

dg

she knew, and that's another ten penny nail in KKKRove's coffin.

We just have to make sure that a silver stake is driven through his heart.

If that's true, what did Luskin tell Fitz that put off the indictment in Oct.? I doubt it had to do with this, because telling that to Fitz would incriminate his client. If I'm off base, or asking a question that's been answered, I've had my head in a cubicle, and didn't surf today.

Oh, and :hi:

name was going to come out.


http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/


Mr. Rove's lawyer, Robert D. Luskin, spoke in the summer or early fall of 2004 with Viveca Novak, a reporter for Time. In that conversation, Mr. Luskin heard from Ms. Novak that a colleague at the magazine, Matthew Cooper, might have interviewed Mr. Rove about the C.I.A. officer at the heart of the case, the people said. (my emphasis)

But on Saturday, December 3, the WaPo reported that "the conversation" took place before Rove's grand jury appearance in February 2004, and appears to be quite Viveca-centric in its sourcing.

It would appear that Mr. Luskin and Vivac may have spoken more than once on the topic. And it seems likely that when Luskin offered up his good friend Vivac in order to save his client, he told Fitzgerald that the relevant conversation (or conversations) happened a good while after Rove's testimony in February, 2004 where Rove presumably did not tell the grand jury about the Cooper conversation, because Fitzgerald's request for information starts in May 2004.

I haven't been paying attention. I've been distracted a lot recently.

your focus.

:)

If we could just stop eating. :)

just sayin'....he gets fired or withdraws = rove lied & is getting an extry-special prezzie from santa fitz.

dg

"put off the indictment" or is that just more Luskin spin? Could it be that Fitz simply wasn't ready to indict Rove and never had any intention of indicting him on 10/28?

been too long since I've seen either of you guys!
:loveyou:

:hi:

:hi:

Simply THE place to be.

:hi:

so your bases are covered.

that is sooo coool, pats!

LOL.

of your family-run business.

:rofl:

:rofl:

Hey, girl! Why aren't you in Central Park??? :)

not great in those situations. i do the odd protest, but it wears on me.
i'm a bit of a crank that way, you'll see!
:rofl:

:rofl:

and that's when i start to feel chaotic!
:shrug:

It's weird to feel like cattle. :)

the waiter!

It's a cold night -- good time to stay in. :hi::loveya:

we'll have to figure out hot toddies you can make with the coffemaker and minibar fixens.
Looking forward to you guys coming up to the city!

and boy, my house is not built for this.

under the down blanket with their heads peeping out.

One in the lap and one in the bed. :D

I always tell Muffin when she gets snarky, "there's a panda in D.C. just waiting to switch places with you."

Oh, KO. :loveya:

No WAY that wasn't a shout-out!

More proof that Keith loves his fans! :loveya:

(as if him singing "The rubbery boy..." to the tune of the old "Lady in Red" song wasn't enough)

He likes us! He really likes us! :loveya: Now, for the pink furry cuffs...

Now I HAVE to see the show.

you don't suppose "rubbery boy" is Botany, do you? :evilgrin:

:loveya: ko!

dg

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :yoiks: :yoiks: :yoiks: :hide:

Imagine putting that on your job application!

1970 interview .... "Well, technically I am not the best but I can make it fucking howl" J Lennon on
his guitar playing.


Happy Xmas (War is Over)

John Lennon, Yoko Ono



(Happy Xmas Kyoko
Happy Xmas Julian)

So this is Xmas
And what have you done
Another year over
And a new one just begun
And so this is Xmas
I hope you have fun
The near and the dear one
The old and the young

A very Merry Xmas
And a happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one
Without any fear

And so this is Xmas
For weak and for strong
For rich and the poor ones
The world is so wrong
And so happy Xmas
For black and for white
For yellow and red ones
Let's stop all the fight

A very Merry Xmas
And a happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one
Without any fear

And so this is Xmas
And what have we done
Another year over
A new one just begun
And so happy Xmas
We hope you have fun
The near and the dear one
The old and the young

A very Merry Xmas
And a happy New Year
Let's hope it's a good one
Without any fear
War is over, if you want it
War is over now

Happy Xmas

To John. :toast:

Bay Airs rule ..... nice shout out from KO

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

i saw stills and it looked hilarious.
these cops in drag are killing me!

I thought the video was not really all that offensive, although it wasn't in great taste. :P

at least they are trying to do something creative. i blame that Reno 911 show.

I so want to see him! Next time I'm on the East Coast, that's a definite stop.

How cute is that damn panda? I mean, really...

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute!

Darn!!!

I hate them.

Ichiro's even pissed about what's going on. He'll be the next player to go to NYC, guaranteed.

I say good riddance! I hope they move. Feh!

:)

Love it.

It's a stellar WPITW segment. :loveya:

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

but really, Bill, a gold-silver finish isn't bad.

And you really do have to give the Marlins something, not only for their "fire sale," but for the snotty way they're treating their season ticket holders. Dan read the letter they sent out on his radio show today while Keith snarked on it with asides. Hilarious. The arrogance of these people again selling the team out from under the fans is incredible.

Of course, we Indians fans just call it "The Curse of Louis Sockalexis." :-)

I am angry. :mad:

There's a big brouhaha because a local school had a "holiday giving tree." Some ding dong complained about the tree having religious connotations (even though the word "Christmas" was NEVER used). So now...it's a holiday giving table. Seriously.

Let's all put a star atop the Giving Table. Let's gather around it and look at the pretty lights! :sarcasm:

Were they saying that the tree has CHRISTIAN religious connotations? If so, they're not only annoying, they're misinformed.

I checked the other channels again, all working. At least I didn't forget to pay my cable bill.
Sigh.

resolved soon. :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

I hope you can at least get the re-air to come in. Do try. It's worth it.

:loveya:

:)

:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:

:loveya: Keith for another heartfelt tribute.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see it pop up on Bloggermann later tonight. Actually, I'm kind of surprised it's not there already.

I know these guys mean well, but it still cracks me up. WHat a combo!

That was a touching story. I miss him, too. Do you think the crossover's gone for good, or that it was just for tonight, because of the Lennon story?

Who were the guests? Did he talk about the shooting of the man on the flight in Miami (are we safer yet?)? Did he discuss the fact that Fitzmas might be coming soon (please, oh please, oh please)? Did he talk about the shameful Patriot act extension, and the ever more disgusting tax cuts for the uber wealthy?

some of the witnesses said they didn't hear anything about a bomb. He talked more about who was testifying for Fitz -- see upthread for Bleever's post.... Um, I'm sure someone else can fill in more....

(KO clearly not taking the marshals' story at face value after what happened in London) and an update on the CIA leak case (mostly talking about V. Novak & Luskin). Nothing about the Patriot Act or tax cuts although he may cover those tonight; who knows?

Oh, this is sweet.

About the plane, eh?

Thank Gawd, the only major injury is someone driving on the road where the plane landed.

Cool!

He :loveya: me.

No, the plane has nothing to do with it. ;) How was your meeting, girl?

Only 6 of us there... and, we got done in less than an hour! :bounce:

Had to slap them down a bit when they started gossiping. They thought they were expressing "concern" for others.

Kids. :eyes:

Can't shoot 'em.

What's the matter? Don't you recognize "concern" when you hear it? Sheesh.

In a real voice, squeaking away, saying "I really can't comment on any of this, and I'm uncomfortable with this discussion." One lady said "it's not like we're going to go out and blab to others." And my secretary, bless her, said "who's not? I blab... all the time!" I roared with laughter... and the rest of them shut the hell up.

I love 'em. I really do - but damn.

having forgotten that of course because Rita wasn't there live, they might need someone to cover the plane news live!

DAMN!!!

Now I will have to tape her damn show tonight!

I suppose I can keep it on with the sound down (I just can't bear to listen to her) and keep an eye out just in case he appears again. But I am definitely taping the first few minutes tonight.

on edit: He's back. Unfortunately the news is not good from Midway. But at least I have MSNBC back on and am watching bonus Keith.

As you know, sometimes it's a good thing to keep your eye out...

some people.

:shrug:

the sound of Rita Cosby.

Extra Keef! I don't think I'll get the TV back, though.

CNN has witnesses and Chicago area stations; but it's still better than Fox. Hannity has Arianna Huffington!

Still...KO is making a souffle out of the pile of rocks they're giving him.

:)

Rev...I need a confession. NOW!

*faint*

So I'm writing e-mails and living vicariously through you guys. :)

You'd think MSNBC could get a feed from a local station in Chicago to work with.

At least...No Rita! No Rasslers!

I just thought (okay, HOPED) it was a new thing that they 86'd the crossover. I still want her to have to submit to the steroid test at the WWE. :)

which she is, in Afghanistan.

They've done the crossover with two subs when someone else is doing her show because she's in transit, but during the time she's been there, and a few other times she's been elsewhere, Keith has done a cold closing again.

Tonight's closing was especially nice. I'm glad he got to do it--a serious, respectful closing to commemorate John (although he still said "Keep your knees loose," he didn't pitch the paper wad or smile--he just said "Good night and good luck," and shuffled script until the camera went off him). At least he got to do a proper closing before being pulled back on duty to cover the plane news.

I'd love to have Rita be forced to take the steroid test. Something tells me they'd find enough testosterone in her to sink a battleship. (Reminds me of the old story of the guy connected to the East German Olympic women's swimming team, who was asked by reporters why all the women on the team had such deep voices--the implication being that they were on steroids. His answer: "We have come here to swim--not to sing.")

Very somber and serene. It was also nice that he didn't have to make nice banter with her after that.

Rita's a man, baby. :) LOL. That swimmer story is hysterical.

And, can we call you Brenda Vicario?

I've got a noisy house full of people, with snow on the TV. Just like the old days.


:)

Can you adjust the rabbit ears to deal with the snow? Maybe some more aluminum foil would help that? :)

He went to Michelle Koczinski in Chicago for more information, and she called him "Keith." LOL.

I'm going to tape the first half of Rita Skeeter tonight in hopes of catching what I missed of him. Which seems to be the Katie Doodah thing (most likely Duda, though).

Can you believe that although Joe is doing some stuff on John tonight, he is also covering the family of Mr. Dead Honeymoon Cruise Guy? His own personal Natalee Holloway. Please.

Well, I'm glad I missed seeing his beady eyes. Yes, he has his own Missing White Person. How will Dr. Phil figure into this one, I wonder?

and his new relationship book for women:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=4415245&mesg_id=4415245

Jane posted her own review, which I thought was a scream. :)