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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:54 AM
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more on MLK, Sen. Clinton (& Kerry)


Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject This morning, Kerry sounded like an angry white male Clinton hater.
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4050781, This morning, Kerry sounded like an angry white male Clinton hater.
Posted by jasmine621 on Sun Jan-13-08 09:45 AM

It did little to try to unify the Dems as an Obama supporter. I do believe that Kerry feels that the Clintons did not help him enough in 2004 but that was mainly his fault. He, like Gore, in 2000 didn't ask for their help and he tried to distance himself from the Clintons, believing the MSM mantra that the Clintons had too much baggage.

I watched that Clip of Hillary's remarks about MLK and Johnson and she said nothing but the truth. All one has to do is listen to the historical Johnson tapes played every Saturday on C-Span. There is no question that MLK and the very brave civil rights activists of the '60s brought the civil rights issues to the forefront. They risked their lives and those of their families and friends fighting for civil rights and justice. To recognize the contribution that Johnson made to the process that enshrined the civil rights fight into law does not take away from MLK and others. But the truth of the matter, and those old civil rights fighters who still live among us know this, is that with out the strong-arm tactics and behind the scenes deals made by a courageous, tough President Lyndon Johnson, those laws would not have passed at that time. Even Kennedy was not strong enough or had enough southern support to pull that off and had Kennedy lived things would have been much more difficult for civil rights. Remember, Hoover had JFK just where he wanted him.
Besides not giving Johnson the credit due him, arguments that only blacks paid the heavy price for fighting against segregation and injustice, must offend the senses of the families of the whites who also gave up their lives and livelihoods to take a stand against racism in this country. And MLK was about more than just the evils of racism. He was about peace, reconciliation, forgiveness, redemption.

It's time for everyone to take a breath. HC was in no way demeaning MLK but rather pointing to the fact that a President not only needs judgment and a vision, but a President has to be tough enough, has to have built the relationships enough to take a stand and make it work. To allow the media pundits to turn HC's statement into diss of MLK is ruinous to Dems all over when we all really know that is not the case. John Kerry knows this as well as many others who will not help set the record straight. Clinton hate is blinding on all sides. It makes her supporters blind to real weaknesses and keeps her detractors in a divisive frenzy that will take the Dems down in flames.

Obama would get my vote over this one issue alone if he showed the maturity and decency to stand up for the truth in this instance.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:38 AM
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1. I have waffled on support for HRC but no more. The baseless attacks are beyond anything
I would expect from reasonable people. I have never been one to stand idle and not say something when someone is being unjustly attacked, and no candidate or campaign will change me. It is sad to see that those attacking her don't want to be bothered with any facts. I am quite convinced now that there is an attempt to "John McCain" her. And the Obama supporters are more than willing to comply. Seeing HRC on Meet the Press today was uplifting. She can take the heat. I am proud to have such a strong, intelligent woman running for president. Her groundbreaking mark in history has already been made. She is paving the road for all future female candidates irregardless of how this turns out.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:41 PM
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2. I agree with your assessment.
This entire race bait posturing by the media and our DU Family Trolls are all attempting to make fiction a reality. Sounds and feels so familiar now. Much of what has been done daily by the *bush administration and the minions in their collective.
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