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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:41 AM
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transphobia or self-righteous?
In the Outrage of the Month thread about the transgenger wanting an op to complete the process, there is the question of prejudice regarding the murderer wanting an operation. It is not transgender prejudice.

For one, she is ugly. Think that doesn't matter? A few posts say as much, but anyone who is honest about it would agree, and "Cute, White, Girls" are worth more and deserve more empathy.

Another factor is that the U.S. is more punitive than any other country in the world. Though the War on Drugs is a factor, it too is only a symtom of a more serious disease:

A Nation in Chains

Inside the Homeland, the state of Texas sets the pace, as you might imagine. During George W. Bush's tenure there as governor in the 1990s, Texas had the fastest growing prison population in the country, almost doubling the national rate, as the Center on Juvenile and Criminal Justice reports. In fact, by the time Dubya was translated to glory by Daddy's buddies on the Supreme Court, one out of every 20 adult Texans were "either in prison, jail, on probation or parole," the CJCJ notes; a level of "judicial control" that reached to one in three for African-American males. George also killed more convicts than any other governor in modern U.S. history as well – a nice warm-up for the valorous feats of mass slaughter yet to come.

But although the U.S. prison population has soared to record-breaking heights during George W. Bush's presidency, America's status as the most punitive nation on earth is by no means solely his doing. Bush is merely standing on the shoulders of giants – such as, say, Bill Clinton, who once created 50 brand-new federal offenses in a single draconian measure, and expanded the federal death penalty to 60 new offenses during his term. In fact, like the great cathedrals of old, the building of Fortress America has been the work of decades, with an entire society yoked to the common task. At each step, the promulgation of ever-more draconian punishments for ever-lesser offenses, and the criminalization of ever-broader swathes of ordinary human behavior, have been greeted with hosannahs from a public and press who seem to be insatiable gluttons for punishment – someone else's punishment, that is, and preferably someone of dusky hue.

The main engine of this mass incarceration has been the 35-year "war on drugs": a spurious battle against an abstract noun that provides an endless fount of profits, payoffs and power for the politically connected while only worsening the problem it purports to address – just like the "war on terror." The "war on drugs" has in fact been the most effective assault on an underclass since Stalin's campaign against the kulaks.


The War on Drugs is not the disease, and is only a blister on the surface. The real disease is the self-righteous attitude of the American people. The same attitude that gives us the right to invade countries, topple governments and implant capitalism. Without the punitive nature of the U.S. inside the country, punitive foreign policy could not have the power it has.

Kosilek is only one insignificant pawn that signals the death of liberalism. The bigger picture moves up from getting a 3rd strike for a victimless crime like drug possession, to the Federal mandatory sentencing laws, to the invasion of countries as the world's police. If we can treat our own citizens with that kind of callousness, why not invade countries and kill lesser men, women and children?
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:54 AM
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1. Are you equating a murderer to a detainee in the "War on Drugs?" nt
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:58 AM
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2. In a way, yes.
Are you saying there is a solid line that divides the two? I think not. It is a world view, or a nationalist view, that includes the war on drugs. The war on drugs is only a small part of a bigger picture.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:02 AM
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3. Hmmmm
this is the kind of worldview that is ripe for parody - and rightfully so. It is morally monsterous to imply that opposition to murder is simply one worldview, and there are other equally valid worldviews.

But perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are saying.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:03 AM
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4. All you have to do is read the link.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:07 AM
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6. Ah.
Well I'm not keen on the war on drugs either. Certainly not with how our laws target certain groups of people while letting others off the hook.

But that doesn't actually answer my question.

Bryant
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:22 AM
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8. Only a small part of that article...
is on the war on drugs. The article is about the bigger picture that INCLUDES the war on drugs. It's pretty clear, I think.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:57 AM
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9. An effort to explain:
The very nature of our modern culture, with its pressures and predilections for soundbites, and our “complicated, confusing, shades-of-gray world” triggers anxiety that provokes projection of the shadow archetype. As an example of the swiftness with which an archetype can be taken up, the rehabilitation rationale that prevailed from the nineteenth century to the early 1970s was abruptly abandoned when Robert Martinson published a sociological analysis of prison rehabilitation programs, concluding that rehabilitation would never succeed because it was conceptually flawed:

"Immediately, almost overnight the concept that had served as a cornerstone of corrections policy for more than a century was politically and publicly discredited. We moved abruptly in the mid-1970s from a society that justified putting people in prison based on the belief that their incarceration would somehow facilitate their productive re-entry back into the freeworld to one that used imprisonment merely to punish criminal offenders by “incapacitating” and “containing” them behind bars, as far away from the rest of us for as long as possible.


The “immediate and unexpectedly enthusiastic reception” of Martinson’s work and the “extreme and extremely uncritical ways in which were being both promoted and implemented” surprised Martinson himself. We are not surprised; Martinson hooked into the shadow archetype, and the collective embraced the familiar story. Five years later, Martinson published an article retracting most of his earlier piece. No one was interested. We are not surprised by that either. Once the archetype is hooked, played on by politicians and amplified by the media, we become eminently manipulable. When the discourse becomes too vehement or vituperative, perk up your ears, and hear the voice of one seeking to escape from himself.

Source: PARADING THE SAURIAN TAIL: PROJECTION, JUNG, AND THE LAW (PDF)
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:06 AM
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5. The posts ragging her on her looks are supposed to be "humorous".
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 11:07 AM by Yollam
I doubt anyone is seriously forming an opinion on the case based by this person's looks. It's the fact that she is so hideously on the INSIDE that counts to me. I don't want her to have her operation because I don't want to reward an evil person when law-abiding TG's can't afford the surgery, and schools can't afford books for kids.

Liberalism may be in dire straits, but the fact that so many couldn't give a rat's ass about this killer's happiness is not a sign of it, IMO.

The transphobic posts are a shame, but hopefully some of those people have learned a thing or two. It certainly made me think about things from a different perspective.


And really, when liberalism was at its height in this country, nobody had even HEARD of the word "transphobia". Let's keep things in perspective.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:20 AM
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7. The "moral panics" such as this one
Are interchangeable, and there is no need for "transphobia's" existence back then. We had the "crack" moral panic, or the drive-by shooting moral panics, like we now have the "meth" moral panic. The individual subject doesn't matter. It is one moral panic after the other, and every minute of FoxNews has that agenda. Or do you think it "humorous" that FoxNews would have us believe only "Cute, white girls" are at risk? They use it because they know it works on many levels, including the subconscious level. 1) Bad crime news incites anger in whites. 2) It is a good distraction from other news, like BushCo crimes. 3) The sky is falling down and only big police government can save us. 4) This justifies our invasions across the world.

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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:05 PM
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10. Interesting theory,,
..but I don't see it. I'm TOTALLY opposed to the "war on some drugs", I fail to relate that to how much elective treatment a prisoner recieves.

And I get OH SO TIRED of folks coming up with new phobias to describe how one feels about the discretionary use of tax dollars. I have no problem with transgendered folks. I just don't believe it is a public welfare issue.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:15 PM
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11. It is symbolic of the bigger "tough on crime" picture.
We are in a constant "crime wave" though violent crime has plummeted since about 1995. Some say that is because of the death penalty, though states without the death penalty have lower murder rates. Some say it was the 3-strikes laws, though violent and serious crime fell equally or more so in states without 3-strikes.

"Moral panics" equals memes and they are infections, often not real, and though often framed as a solution, they are more problems instead of solutions.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:22 PM
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12. Tough on crime..
.. like murder - sign me up.
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13. Locking.....
Links to lewrockwell are not permitted.
This site is bigoted and DU does not
want to give them publicity.
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