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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:04 AM
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Question: WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE???? answer:
Over the past few years this question has popped up time and time again.

As far as I can tell - it first originated by Republicans in response to Clinton.

It's arisen again and again - along with Why aren't people rioting in the streets, where are the mass protests.

We tend to be quick about pointing to the lack of media coverage or the "sheeple" attitude. Although this may contribute to the lack of outrage - in my view - Sheeple and media are not the reason.

So why isn't there more vocal outrage, protests or just plain rioting in the streets to topple the government? Because despite the current state of affairs, the issues, the frustration - we still believe in the founding principles of our country and government. We still believe in democracy, the constitution and that some how some way we'll survive.

Deep down - we believe our votes count, that we have the power to initiate a "regime change". This was something Howard Dean tried to get across during his primary campaign. We have the power.

The most dangerous times for our government will be when we feel helpless and powerless - there is nothing more dangerous than a people who have nothing left to lose and everything to gain.

For now, we still believe.
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Aiptasia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:06 AM
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1. I think it's desensitization
We're just exhausted emotionally by all the crap assaulting our already jangled nerves every day.
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whododayis Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:07 AM
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2. people are too busy trying to make ends meet to notice
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 11:08 AM by whododayis
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:19 AM
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3. or
are people hiding behind the need to 'make ends meet'? rather than have to act on what will take us all down- soon- if we don't do something???

I ask this not to be-little the need to 'eat' or have shelter- I have very little- but when I look around, at folks who would normally be incensed at the kind of things 'slipping' by, and slowly but surely changing this nation into something completely 'foreign' to what I believe 'we' 'were?' - hoped? desire to be, and they are filling their lives even FULLER with 'must-do's', 'must-haves', I mean, we have so much STUFF in this nation, we have to rent STORAGE UNITS???? ..... hello???-

Work can be an addiction, a reason not to have to face the elephant sitting in the middle of the room- We look at it as a 'noble' addiction- but not when we allow it to distract or remove us from 'doing something' to stop the madness that has become life in this world-

At least, in my opinion-

peace- more than an ideal- an necessity of life

blu
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:38 AM
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7. I think your post is probably a lot of it
that, and the fact that people desperately WANT to believe in their government.
It's like the feeling when you're waiting for something - you know that feeling -
..let's just wait one more day, let's give it another month, or let's give it
a year,....so people just keep "giving it another day". So long as the Media,
keeps "neutralizing" everything, the public feel another day is warranted.

Also, IMO, people, may be a little shocked by all of this - especially conservatives
who may be feverishly trying to process what's happening, without thinking about it,
reading anymore about it, or even talking about it. :crazy: (like that visual of
the fingers in the ears)

Liberals, not so much in shock and denial as they are thoroughly PISSED. For me personally,
the media treating the public like "they're stupid" is what I find infuriating. Are we
stupid? You know what - I'm going to say no, the majority are not. But liberals, in general,
may be thinking and feeling what I described in paragraph one.

Having said all of this, although things are not "peaking" (in my mind they did long ago),
depending upon what unfolds with Iran, they certainly could VERY quickly begin to peak.

Also, OVER CONFIDENCE by the people who have scooped up a lot of power is clearly evident
right now. To the media and the power's that be: Nothing lasts forever - Karma's a bitch -
What goes around around and around<--as per the Dixie Chicks, must stop at some point. I love the
saying: "Two things you can't change: Natural Law and Other People" <---one of my favorites.
With the constant drip drip drip of truth, other people will change when the Tsunami hits.



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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:20 AM
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4. Far too many distractions...missing pets, missing girls, missing funds,
missing wives, etc etc

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:27 AM
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5. Why didn't the people of Iraq rise up against Saddam?
My Guess: They knew the terrible cost and didn't believe the new ruler would be that much better than the old ruler.

BTW: It speaks volumes about the horrible day-to-day conditions of post-Saddam Iraq that the Iraqi people ARE rising up against us.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 11:35 AM
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6. I spend a great deal of time pondering this question
As for me, I feel we should have been in the streets months (years?) ago. And as for me, I'm waiting for that moment when we all suddenly find ourselves there. I think there are many people here in DU, and elsewhere, who await the same moment. But what exactly will bring us to that point?

A charismatic leader who declares "that's enough, the treachery ends here"? Another war? Another stolen election? Some other catalyzing event?

But if and when we march, it cannot be a 1-day event on a convenient weekend when the weather is good and we all go home satisfied that we raised our voices once again- yeah, free speach rules, yippee. We have to do as they did in other countries where such an action let to tangible results: we have to take the streets and own them until we win.

I don't know what it will take to reach that point. But when there comes that point where the people take to the streets, I personally believe that there are a LOT of people who already realize we should have been there earlier, and they will be ready to march immediately. We will march for a return to democracy...
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:33 AM
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8. A charismatic leader who declares "that's enough, the treachery ends here"
I had the same thought. Our choices out there (on either side of the aisle)are not of the "inspirational kind"

I put forth this thought back in 2000 - that we were waiting for a 'political messiah' - a leader that can inspire us. On the caution side" - this leader must also be competent and not just someone that looks good in front of the camera.

We also run the risk of latching onto someone who is flashy enough to "unify" people around him/her but is not competent and/or doesn't have the country's interest as a priority. History is full of dictators swept into office by a unified people rallying around him, only to find out things became worse.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 09:28 AM
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10. I agree - the leader needs to be the "real deal"
If for example, someone with credibility like Gore, Conyers or Feingold (or someone else, not in politics but with similar public stature) were to make a general call for resistance, I'm there. Right freaking then - no further delay. Pack a few things and simply go join the masses...

I spend my days wanting to go through a wall with a baseball bat because I am so frustrated with where things have ended up, and the absolute perilous lack of response by "us". I just want to scream.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 02:45 AM
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9. People don't protest in the streets because they connect and vent on the
internet.

The protests in the streets came from pent up frustration and the need for a focused mass movement.

All the GOPs have to do now is throw out some diversionary tactic and that will keep the ranters busy for a few days. They always ramp up something, don't they?
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