RFK Jr. is wrong according to this right winger because...get this...

"You know a Kennedy is the LAST person to talk about stolen elections. Really, c'mon Robert. Didn't anyone tell you about Grandpa Joe? The year was 1962."

and

"Kennedy, Robert Jr. to be exact, cries FOUL! Alas, the 2004 election was hijacked! Stolen! (where did you get that data Robert?) But about your grandpa. It's fairly well known, but apparently not by all, that Joseph bankrolled many votes and bribed precinct tally folk to make sure his son, John F. Kennedy, got in the oval office."

What they can't blame in the Clenis, they blame on a Kennedy.

:banghead:

through election fraud in Illinois.

But shouldn't that be the 1960 election......oh, well. I'll Google for details.

I will add that to my next response. Now she is decrying RS as bad source for political news.

dy is fucking idiotic. The *current* officeholders are crooks; get it?

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html
Illinois had 27 electoral votes. Kennedy won 303 - 219, making Illinois irrelevant.

licans at his beck & call. If Joe bought some votes to take his son over the top-he paid a huge price for it in so many ways and the country got an intelligent leader with vision out of it. bush has armies of corrupt professional criminals behind him stealing the peoples votes for him in the light of day-and still he is a total failure on every level.

they've opened it up for us to bring up Little W's *Nazi* Grandpa! Let's let 'em have it!

...did in the past?

I thought better of bringing up Prescott's nazi ties although if she persists I might.

yet we anticipated exactly this dull-witted response.

Huh?

Are there any other truthinesses you need clearing up now?

I bet that if you dug a bit more with this guy you could get him worked up over how poorly his ancestors were treated in the Napoleonic Wars...

PM you.

won the presidency in 1960. JFK used to joke about the myth that his father was buying votes. Older DUers like myself will remember Senator John Kennedy at the Gridiron Dinner in Washington DC in '58:

"I have just received the following telegram from my generous Daddy. It says, 'Dear Jack: Don't buy a single vote more than is necessary. I'll be damned if I'm going to buy a landslide'."

Or this from the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Dinner in NYC on October 19, 1960:

"On this matter of experience, I had announced earlier this year that if successful, I would not consider campaign contributions as a substitute for experience in appointing Ambassadors. Ever since I made that statement I have not received one single cent from my Father."

The myths about Chicago have been exposed as just that long ago. We can address them openly, and with humor.

Votes were "bought" and promised. Some say that is why JFK was taken out. :shrug:

where they went wink, wink, nudge, nudge and continue to throw it up in our face to this day.
Democracy is not a spectator sport. They should have challenged it back then. The difference
was despite all gossip, Kennedy went on to become one of the most popular presidents we ever
had and Bush is not. Plus the Supremes put Bush in the White House, which is not part of
any election process outlined in the constitution.

Some of those votes weren't cheap.

I mean, like W was even a victim that time up in Maine when he was pulled over for Driving_While_Kennedy.

:sarcasm:

"Damnit", he'll say, "the election was in 1962! I saw it on Fox!"

the fault of either the Kennedys or the Clintons or the liberal media, we should be just fine.

Sometimes -- let's be honest here -- we LAPSE into the notion that the Constitution is for everyone and that this is government of, for, and by the people. Let's agree to remind each other that the woes of the republic are to be laid at the feet of Kennedys, Clintons, and the media.

We'll get through this together, I promise!

ooops, I mean, what logic, what sound reason. :freak:

:rofl:


And: what, no mention of Chappaquiddick?

1962. JFK had been in the office for two years...Cuban Missile crisis was in 1962.

They attack the messanger...same one trick pony show that these goons know. Hell, it is all they could learn to do.

That does nothing to detract from the massive fraud and multiplicity of corrupt and illegal acts that have occured in the last two elections.

Why would these right wing nuts want corrupt elections? It works against everyone. Not just Democrats.

Kennedy's gangsters (Giancana, Gambino) beat Nixon's gangsters (Costello, Trafficante, Marcello).

JFK already had many many more electoral votes than he needed to win the elctoral vote, so Nixon didn't bother to challenge IL's votes. So no, that steal (if it did happen, which no one knows,) would not have made a difference in the national election.

...to talk about stolen elections.


I mean, takes one to know one, right?

And wasn't the matter dropped for lack of proof?

without having to pay for it first!

frigging article.

for JFK was made up downstate by the Republicans. It happened on both sides. Besides JFK would have still have had an electoral victory without Illinois.

This is a very good sign for the Democrats.

I've been noticing something about the right's counter-arguments lately. You ask a serious question and they come back with some bizarre non-sequitur.

I think they're finally giving up on trying to keep all the lies straight. Just desperate lashing out now.

they were all crying about getting over it, it's the past, etc, yet they brought up an election 40 years ago, while telling others to get over the last election. Strange folks they are.