Mark Shields on The News Hour:

"I know of no one who has had his stature enhanced by being in the Bush Cabinet."

:evilgrin: :applause:

I also was surprised by David Brooks pooh-poohing Haditha saying (I am just paraphrasing here,
oh, that's just be expected in this type of guerilla war.) Mark Shields quickly said that it is not only something that is not expected it is not excusable, it turns out that both Shields are Lehrer are former Marines.

more and more.

He's such a wanton little whore for Bush.

What a strong exchange.

"Oh, these things happen...blah blah blah."

William Saffire was WAY too conservative for me, but he would be highly unlikely to suggest a callous rationale for Haditha.

Shame on Brooks, and bravo for Shields for calling him on that.

is marginalized, nothing to see here, this is to be expected, just move along, How many times
have we been told to "get over it" during this administration.

and I don't think he's going to get free of the perception the public has of him now. He's failed in so many areas. Iraq. New Orleans. Social Security. Etc.

And Iran looms. He may see it as a poll-jacking strategy, but the potential for things going wrong there, IMO, is far greater than in Iraq.

we have not had effective leadership since the Clinton years.

ran a pretty good ship.

If not exactly perfect, it was generally well-managed.

Leon Panetta came on board fairly late, and picked up the pace when he was most needed.

Bush has no one like that in his White House.

Seems to be the norm for Republican pundits.

Leher stated that he and Shields had both served in the Marines. If Brooks had served, I am sure either he or Leher would have said something!

I think that after he graduated college, he was a police reporter.

contriteness about an issue, but if you listen carefully, he always attempts to legitimize that same issue in the next statement with some kind of excuse. It used to fool me because, I would be stuck on the fact that he acknowledged the wrongness of an issue (and thinking about that), while he would immediately excuse that issue somehow in the next breath.

I saw somewhere that he said he used to be a liberal, (anyone have info. about this), because he obviously will never admit he is wrong about anything, he is so sure about everything, which IMHO is the antithesis to a liberalism.

We are the unreasonable ones demanding that this has to stop. The world agrees with us. We
went in there to "save" the Iraqi people from Sadaam not to starve them, imprison them, torture
them, or kill them. The American people do not condone the wholesale slaughter of innocent women, babies, old men and women. We went to Europe to fight Hitler, we didn't go to Europe for oil, or to fatten the wallets of contractors, we went there to save the people there from being imprisoned, being enslaved, being tortured, being killed on the whims of a military state
which had lost its conscience. If ever there was an out of control military - it was the Nazis.

Lehrer News Hour just started here in Chicago, so now I have something to look forward to...

do you enjoy being repressed?

Transcript from 6/02/06 NEWSHOUR with Mark Shields and David Brooks

DAVID BROOKS: But when you get guerrilla war, with fast weapons, fast pace of battle, integrated with civilians, then you get these atrocities, and that's true here. It's true in Vietnam, but it's true in Africa.

MARK SHIELDS: You also get a more democratic response when there is resistance to the war.
I could not disagree more strenuously with David. Jim, there is no code, Marine Corps code, American code, international code, that says the murder of civilians -- if we have a nine-year-old child testifying that he saw his grandmother and grandfather killed by Marines in a cold-blooded way, that is -- I can't tell you how devastating that is.

DAVID BROOKS: This could be the most noble war -- I think it started out as a noble war. This could be the most effectively fought war, you could still get incidents like this. And it doesn't necessarily reflect on the other Marines or the cause in general.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june06/sb_06-02.html

On his best day he makes little sense ... and this wasn't his best day.

this is the same: fix the facts around the rhetoric

at him the last year he always looks like he has not slept in months, but his words are always defending the indefensible. I guess evil doing does take it's toll on one's physical health!

He seems like a caring guy, but I must admit despite all the ha, ha of David Brooks, I find
him scary. He always seems so happy despite the gravity of what he's talking about, oh, it's
not that bad, it is that bad, and it's time he said so. Have you noticed something about all
the GOP'ers, they all seem to be taking rapid aging pills. Al Gore looks the same as 2000
but look at the other side. It's unbelievable how much older they look.

remember them all, and then there's all those people who died because you lied to keep you up at night to! The moral of the story, if you tell the truth, you'll sleep better and not age soo much.

Actually, if you remember Colin Powell during the lead up to the war, he looked so ashy, I thought he had cancer. I actually think it has to due with lying (selling your soul to the gov't/corp) by lying your butt off, knowing that lying is amoral that really diminishes one's health

9-11, Katrina, Iraq, Iran, the economy, it's really scary and sad at the same time, there is
no core of truth at all. I remember, how defeated Colin Powell used to look before he resigned,
yes, you are right about that.