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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 07:54 PM
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Pete Townshend on Nat. Review's pick of his song as 'conservative'
Townshend Brushes Off Conservative Tag

PETE TOWNSHEND is playing defense after the notoriously conservative National Review listed the WHO's Won't Get Fooled Again Number One on its list of the top fifty conservative rock songs. In a short blurb accompanying the ranking, author John J. Miller explained that the song made the list because it ''swears off naive idealism once and for all.'' In a response to the ranking, Townshend posted an entry in the Pete's Diaries blog on his Web site, entitled ''Won't Get Judged Again,'' rebuking the rank. Townshend explained, ''It is not precisely a song that decries revolution -- it suggests that we will indeed fight in the streets -- but that revolution, like all action can have results we cannot predict. Don't expect to see what you expect to see. Expect nothing and you might gain everything.'' Townshend then goes on to explain that the song was simply ''Meant to let politicians and revolutionaries alike know that what lay in the center of my life was not for sale, and could not be co-opted into any obvious cause.'' Rounding out the top ten of the National Review's top fifty conservative rock songs are THE BEATLES' ''Taxman,'' THE ROLLING STONES' ''Sympathy for the Devil,'' LYNYRD SKYNYRD's ''Sweet Home Alabama,'' THE BEACH BOYS' ''Wouldn't It Be Nice,'' U2's ''Gloria,'' THE BEATLES' ''Revolution,'' THE SEX PISTOLS' ''Bodies,'' METALLICA's ''Don't Tread on Me'' and THE KINKS' ''20th Century Man.''

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10481746/latest_news_petty_vs_chili_peppers_townshend_explains_song_and_more

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 07:59 PM
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1. I wonder if it would surprise any of those NatRev clowns
to find out that a lot of those songs are so far left they're off the little wingnut map?
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:03 PM
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2. I wish Ronnie Van Zant was around to
punch one of them.
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tech3149 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:06 PM
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3. even though they might hear the words
the meaning falls on deaf ears
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:26 PM
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7. "Wouldn't It Be Nice?" is "pro-abstinence" and "pro-marriage"??
I still can't get over that. The whole point of the song (indeed the first stanza) is, "Wouldn't it be nice if we were older? Then we wouldn't have to wait so long." It's not "pro-abstinence,"except to the point that, since we're teenagers, we aren't allowed to have sex or get married, but we sure as hell want to! (Yeah, it's "pro-marriage," but that's such a bullshit term: it's a damn love song, of course it's "pro-marriage"/"pro-spending-eternity-with-you"!)

And then there's just really weird shit like "Godzilla" from BOC (um, the movie is ultra-environmentalist: don't screw with the Earth, or it'll screw with you! and this is just a song they wrote because they wanted to sing about something weird. Duh!), and "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" by Iron Maiden, simply because it's based on an old poem (despite that the author Samuel Taylor Coleridge was an atheist, if I'm not mistaken).

And Led Zeppelin's "the Battle of Evermore" is anti-communist because "the tyrant's face was red"? Yeah, the color red has never been used in reference to the face of someone who's angry; nope, never. :banghead:
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:32 PM
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10. wonder if we should do a list of real conservative songs?

1)These Boots are Made for Walkin' by Jessica Simpson (because they will indeed walk over us if given the chance
2)anything by Hilary Duff or Jojo.
3)anything by Alice Cooper
4)anything by Ted Nugent

I can't think like this anymore, it's giving me a headache.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:39 PM
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14. These guys:
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:42 PM
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15. Beatles, "I'm a Loser", Pink Floyd, "Money"
Roger Waters, "The Bravery of Being Out of Range"
Police, "Every Breath You Take" (I'll be wathing you)
And I'll agree with "Taxman", but not the spin.
off the top of my head.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:45 PM
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16. My Ding-a- Ling
That's their anthem.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:50 PM
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17. Pat Boone, Wayne Newton... pretty shitty playlist, IMHO.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:12 PM
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4. Ha! Wouldn't It Be Nice is becoming a gay anthem . . .
. . . for marriage.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:22 PM
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5. I always thought "Wouldn't It Be Nice"...
Edited on Sat Jun-03-06 08:23 PM by LostInAnomie
... was a song about teens wanting to get married so they can fuck. I guess I should start listening to the lyrics a little closer. :crazy:
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:32 PM
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9. ha! check out my post above...
I see we're both on the same page (or maybe we're both just not total morans!).

All these conservatives scream that everyone must speak English or else, yet they can't understand the simple statement, "Wouldn't it be nice if we were older? Then we wouldn't have to wait so long." It's the first fucking line of the song you stupid Repugs! :spank:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:24 PM
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6. I can't help but be impressed at Townsend's response.
I've never heard sentences of that polish and fiber from the mouth of George Bush.

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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:28 PM
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8. thank god.
what a relief he's fighting back about this.what a freaking insult that was.

think i'm gonna go download some stuff from that 'white city' CD. Go Pete!
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infogirl Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:33 PM
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11. Pete Townsend is a pedophile...
He was the fall guy in a case in England...said he would be exonerated..and was...but this case actually was about several in Tony Blair's cabinet.

see franklin cover up



This incident with Townsend came out in the last few years..
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infogirl Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:35 PM
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12. Like many of the conservative elite!
start googling!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:38 PM
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13. Please provide links and evidence.
If I am not mistaken, this was already debunked on DU a while back.


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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 10:26 PM
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19. And that has what to do with the misuse of his music? nt
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:58 PM
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18. This just proves it

All these rich little conservatives are stoned out of their minds and taking too many oxycontins.
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OutNow Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 10:38 PM
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20. Yeah - the revolution starts now
Steve Earle - play it often - play it loud

Played the old Steppenwolf CD the other day - Monster - still sounds great after 30 years

I am sooooo disappointed that the National Review never picks my favorites.

Bring the Troops Home Now
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