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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 08:51 PM
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Will ANYBODY believe a "false flag" attack in the Persian Gulf?
One that will prompt the U.S. to go to war with Iran. I have been reading that a lot of people are anticipating just such an event, another 'Gulf of Tonkin' incident, if you will. Would anybody believe it when and if it happens though? Nobody, I mean NOBODY outside the United States will believe it. I know that most democrats and progressives will not believe it. Could such an event and the subsequent attack on Iran be the catalyst for the nations of the world to form a coalition to fight the United States?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:14 PM
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1. good point, valid & Scary, but maybe they will come to liberate us........
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:21 PM
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2. I just don't think that it would be believed as "mainstream"
The CM would ignore any evidence of a false flag operation, and those who actually report the news would be ignored. If the independent voices became loud enough, the CM would then attach the "conspiracy theory" label to it and that would be that--just like so much that we have witnessed for the past 5 1/2 years.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:35 PM
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4. I'd say you have it just about 100% right
I would expect no less from the CM. Long live Linktv and FSTV
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 09:29 PM
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3. I don't think Rove thinks he needs such an event
In case you haven't noticed, he's above the law and the will of the people. If he decides to attack Iran, he'll just do it, and not bother to profer any plausible reason.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 10:06 PM
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5. Sure. Whether it's "false flag" or Bush just starts nuking Iran
there will be a certain percentage in the U.S. that believes and supports it. The same diehard core who still steadfastly/automatically support Bush --- which (scarily) is approximately 1/3 of the population, give or take a few percentage points. Also, the ones who blindly/mechanically/robotically utter the phrase, "support our troops" with the not even hidden coded message/accusation that if you're not 100% for Bush and the War you're a goddamn, commie traitor. Also the non-thinking ones who believe that the generic office of President demands blind respect regardless of who currently occupies it --- that any sitting President can do no wrong and should receive our unequivocal, 100% support/obedience. If there's an "incident" in the Gulf/MidEast, a domestic terror attack here (real or manufactured), or Bush starts nuking Iran, you KNOW the whorish FOXCNNMSNBC conglomerate will go into complete, manic overdrive and be in their rabble-rousing, BushCo-supporting, propagandistic glory, wreaking terrible moral destruction/devestation on our Republic and Democracy with their 24/7 rabid coverage. Just think how many times you saw the repetitive loop footage of those planes crashing into the Twin Towers. Part of the media's propaganda/psychological strategy is saturation and endless repetition. Can't you already hear O'Reilly, Malkin, Hannity, Blitzer, Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter, Matthews, etal? Katie will just keep grinning and be terminally perky over at CBS. One of my major concerns is that a percentage of people who are already against, or those Repubs who are gradually turning against BushCo will succumb (as we Americans usually do) to the "rally around the President & the flag" syndrome in an emergency. Even if the root cause is totally manufactured, some (perhaps too many) will go back to supporting Bush as our "War President" if they believe the country is in crisis. An even worse concern is that an "incident" will be the springboard for Bush to declare a national emergency, institute martial law, suspend elections, officially suspend the Constitution (as opposed to his just spitting on it as he does now), etc. I don't think we can count on Congress to have learned their lesson from meekly standing by while Bush usurped their war-making powers, and then tacitly rubber-stamping his "preemptive" war on Iraq, or their cluster-fuck fellation of Bush by passing his hideous "Patriot Act" the first time around (in 2001) with most of them admitting they never even read it!
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