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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:31 AM
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gay question
I know this is weird, but I would like to hear people's thoughts on this.

What do you think of people who are only attracted to their own race? What do you think of people who are only attracted to a specific other race?

I want to hear opinions. thanks.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:33 AM
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1. How is this a "gay question?" n/t
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:35 AM
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2. IMHO, the problem comes when people try to dictate to other people
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 12:39 AM by Lex
to whom they should or should not be attracted.

ETA: Consenting adults, of course.



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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:37 AM
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3. Excuse me. There is only one human race
Where are you coming from?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:38 AM
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:39 AM
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5. "gay" question? You didn't actually say that did you? nt
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:40 AM
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6. I think that bigotry comes in a variety of flavors.
And none of them are pleasing to an open palate.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:44 AM
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7. I don't think anything of them specifically
It could be the result of a sense of shared experiences - a bond, like veterans have a bond, like any survivors have a bond.
It could be a physical attraction, which begs the question do they put physical traits about personality.
A race-specific attraction could be the result of racism-based preconceptions.

I would be hesitant to lump everyone together when it comes to guessing at their mindset on something so individual as attraction.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:25 AM
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23. Please outline the races that you see in existence?
There is no such thing. We are the human race.
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mortlefaucheur Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:44 AM
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8. People overly concerned with someone's race
are most commonly referred to as racists.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:58 AM
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11. There is only one race. The human race
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 12:59 AM by Erika
Where are you coming from?
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mortlefaucheur Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:56 AM
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35. I'm for the most part agreed w/you
The discerners of differences have more to answer for, imho.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:48 AM
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9. ?????
:spray:



Hello?
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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:57 AM
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10. Your question asks "only attracted to."
In my years of experience, there doesn't seem much we can do about to whom we are attracted. Now if someone does or doesn't respond to a race or color or height, etc., (you ask what we would think about the person), and I guess I'd think they were probably genetically predisposed to their attraction, of lack of same. I suppose there could also be some socialization involved, but wouldn't know how to analyze it relative to the person. None of the above would make me think either good or bad of the person and certainly wouldn't judge the correctness or normalcy of their feelings to which they are entitled.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:59 AM
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12. What I think is weird is when people like you post shit and then sit back
and ignore every single question in response to the meaning of what you've written.

I too want to know how is this a gay question.

I want to hear opinions. thanks.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:59 AM
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13. Freud might answer: because subconsciously you want to
be romantically involved with your mother or father, as the case may be.


As has already been mentioned, but is worth mentioning again, your thread title really sucks and has nothing to do with the question you then asked.
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:18 AM
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20. That damn Freud!
I realized after 9 years of marriage that my wife was just like my mother.
So that means that, if Freud is correct, I slept with my mo, mo, moth, oh damn, I can't say it.

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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:05 AM
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14. Seriously
You posted a "question" that made no sense. You need to return to the thread to clarify what you are talking about.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:07 AM
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15. As a homosexual, I fail to see how this is a homosexual question.
Please explain.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:10 AM
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16. VEGETERIAN QUESTION:
What is your favorite meat dish?

:crazy:

LOL
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:12 AM
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17. That's a tough question.
There are too many variables as to why people date others from the same or different race to give an answer. I believe a lot of it has to do with the environment in which a person has lived. I am Hispanic and I grew up in a largely non-Hispanic neighborhood. I was raised in an environment that allowed me to feel comfortable with people from a lot of different races. I believe because of that I've been attracted to females without taking race into consideration. I have relatives who grew up in Hispanic only areas and have never dated or married anyone other than Hispanics. I've never thought less of them for their choices because I figured it was what they were most comfortable with. They didn't have the multi-cultural experiences I did, so they stayed within the culture they could identify with the most.

The reasons vary too much for me to judge anyone based on the race of the person they happen to be attracted to. To each his own, I say.

And by the way, why the "gay" question thing? If you meant 'stupid' or 'silly' question by using the word gay, I really thing you should consider finding another word to use. Many people may be greatly offended when gay is used in place of stupid, including me.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:14 AM
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18. Since you haven't returned, let me ask: How do the Promise Keepers feel
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 01:24 AM by blonndee
about this?

This is you, no? Derek Gullage?

http://www.urbanonramps.com/rc/cheeryouth.html

http://www.urbanonramps.com/rc/prismpk.html

Curious, since the articles I found have something to do with race...and a LOT to do with religion, but I still can't figure out the "gay" connection. Perhaps it's time to explain?

edited: to avoid the appearance of thus-far unsubstantiated accusations.
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justice1 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:16 AM
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19. What an odd subject line.
You've already received some good explanations about attraction. The reason why someone might not be interested in their own race, probably has to do with bad experiences.

My sis-in-law for example who is white/indian, was married to a white guy, who passed away a few years ago. She is overweight and the white guys she dated since, used her. She started dating black men exclusively, because they treated her better. She is getting married next month, and couldn't be happier.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:19 AM
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21. There is only the human race
Get used to it.
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justice1 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:23 AM
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22. lol, I've been in a mixed relationship for 20 years.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:26 AM
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24. Mixture of what?
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justice1 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:31 AM
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25. Does it matter? I have a rather diverse family.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:33 AM
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27. Just wondering if you were mixing the human race
with others? Truly diverse.
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justice1 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:08 AM
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39. Like I couldn't see that coming.

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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:32 AM
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26. I don't see how this question is very happy??

Seriously. I don't think much of someone who is attracted to a specific race (his/own own or another). The heart wants what the heart wants.

Plus race is becoming increasingly more difficult to label onto people. Where once people were much more bound geographically, intermingly of races is happening more than ever.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:35 AM
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28. Genetically, there is only the human race, not races.
Please study.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:38 AM
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30. ok, i've seen your posts, but the word race refers to subspecies


within species. Humans are a species which can be argued as having subspecies or varieties.


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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:42 AM
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31. DNA determines the human race
and all humans share the same dna.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:52 AM
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32. only identical twins have the 'same' DNA and even then there can be errors

There are some theorists who for political reasons (antiracism) and because taxonomical boundaries between races are fuzzy would like to do away with the term, but it is still valid to speak about clusters of differences within the human species that were brought about by relative geographic isolation, microevolution, and adaptation to different environments.

Again, the word race is synonymous with subspecies so when you say human race you are using strange phrase. Its the human species.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:56 AM
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34. Your argument is inane
The mingling of humans of different color, region, and environment has eliminated any pure ethnics.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:05 AM
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38. pure ethnics??

I never claimed such a thing existed -- In fact I discussed race as a fuzzy category as much natural catergories are. One can still discuss races in humans and other organisms even if the boundaries are blurry.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:59 AM
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36. We have become too mixed to claim any separate identity
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 02:00 AM by Erika
Face the facts. We are all humans not subspecies of the human race.

There is no true Chinese, or Vietnamese, or Danish, or Bolivian, or Spanish, or Hispanic, or African.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:54 AM
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33. The OP means "ethnicity," I think.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:37 AM
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29. I'm not gay
But I tend to go for the ethnic girls.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:00 AM
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37. What does this have to do with gay people?
Or solely gay people, I should say.

And to answer, I think both types of people in your question are being shortsighted, but it is their prerogative. Personally, I am attracted to all ethnicities.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:46 AM
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40. I initially (still? maybe...) gave this post the benefit of the doubt...
I can see how the OP might have wanted some "no further info provided" responses
to those hypothetical questions, to use them to make some sort of point
about how "gay issues" are regarded and reacted to.

But, speaking as somewhat of an expert on "rubbing people the wrong way",
I really think the OP needs to END this little experiment right now
with a nice explanation of what they were hoping to acheive.

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:53 AM
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41. Also, I think he meant "gay" pejoratively.
As in "stupid." Bad move on his part.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:15 AM
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42. my "maybe" grows closer to "no longer" with every unanswered response
I certainly post a lot of stuff that is poorly worded, snarky, knee-jerk sarcastic,
and not very well thought out. Quite often, alcohol is involved. :crazy:

But I actually CARE about the responses
to my posts enough to READ them, so the resulting misunderstandings
generally get sorted out with a few explanations and/or sincere apologies.

But to drop such an obvious Flame-Grenade into GD, and then
just walk away without comment? It's not looking very good
for my "benefit of the doubt" at this point, is it?
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:19 AM
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43. Yep, not looking good at all.
I dropped a GD-worthy flame grenade in the Lounge once, but I still replied to the overwhelming majority of the posts.
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44. locking.....
This is flamebait.

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