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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:45 AM
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Who (voluntarily) goes to fundie colleges like Falwell's besides
Brainwashed fundies?

Ever seen the rules these places have?

http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=1417&printpage=y
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:55 AM
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1. What are the statistics?
Are employers impressed with degrees from places like these?
Do they perform well in the real world?
Do they make higher salaries?
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:36 AM
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6. I think many of them go into the ministry.
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 10:41 AM by ikojo
Also, places Patrick Henry college are training kids for political careers.

http://www.phc.edu/about/default.asp

The Mission of Patrick Henry College is to prepare Christian men and women who will lead our nation and shape our culture with timeless biblical values and fidelity to the spirit of the American founding. Educating students according to a classical liberal arts curriculum, and training them with apprenticeship methodology, the College provides academically excellent baccalaureate level higher education with a biblical world view.

The Vision of Patrick Henry College is to aid in the transformation of American society by training Christian students to serve God and mankind with a passion for righteousness, justice and mercy, through careers of public service and cultural influence.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:07 AM
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14. Also, George Mason
Remember the "Cinderella Story" of the NCAA basketball tourney?

Another one of these fundie factory universities.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:36 AM
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23. Umm... what?
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 11:37 AM by kiahzero
What gave you that idea?
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:37 AM
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24. Well, a economics professor there is an Oxyrush substitute host
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 11:37 AM by pstokely
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:38 AM
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25. So that makes it a "fundie factory?"
It's a public university.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:33 PM
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26. Sorry if you're a fan, but . . .
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 10:34 PM by lolly
Here's one link from Media Transparency.


An excerpt:

The heavy stream of money invested in George Mason University offers a striking example of the attention that conservative foundations have paid to the recruitment and training of college youth. Located just outside the Washington, D.C. beltway and offering good access to national decision makers, George Mason University has been a magnet for right-wing money for over a decade.

snip

George Mason University's Law and Economics Center has as its mission to teach federal judges that the goal of the law should be to maximize the wealth of society by promoting the efficient use of scarce resources. Thus conceived, the law is no longer about the Constitution, or about ethics or justice. In this view, courts become an appendage of the market, promoting efficiency, not equity. By 1991, the Law and Economics Center had provided such training to 40% of all federal judges by offering them all-expense-paid seminars held at resort locations.



In other words, it's a wingnut factory.

Oh, and it began as a public university; it apparently isn't any more.

Just Google George Mason University to find a whole page full of similar articles.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:58 AM
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2. so I guess the b.j. in the library by your girlfriend is not allowed?

Respect While Dating / Social Behavior

All students are asked to display mature Christian behavior in social interaction. Proper respect must be shown to all individuals at all times. Harassment of any type will not be tolerated. Handholding is the only appropriate form of personal contact. Improper personal contact or other forms of public display are considered in poor taste. After dusk, students should not be alone with an individual of the opposite sex in any unlighted area such as the ball fields, parking lots, parked cars, ravine or other wooded areas, etc. This is considered improper social behavior.


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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:04 AM
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3. So it is okay to...
be alone with an individual of the same sex in any unlighted area such as the ball fields, parking lots, parked cars, ravine or other wooded areas, etc.

:evilgrin: :bounce: :rofl:
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:35 AM
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22. According to these rules, rape won't get you expelled
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:08 AM
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4. Liberty
offers scholarships to kids all over the state of Virginia. My son graduated in 1995 and his girlfriend at the time could not get into any college because of her grades. Then she received an offer from Liberty, thank God she told me about it, and I clued her in. But how many don't know what they are getting into? Young minds can be fooled with very easily.
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:33 AM
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5. There are a lot of private fundie high schools
Who strongly encourage their students to attend Liberty or Bob Jones, et cetera.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:38 AM
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7. There is also the network of fundie Christian home
schoolers. Where do those kids go to college, IF they go to college?
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:42 AM
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8. I would assume the same
I know a lot of those homeschool kids are affiliated with the high schools for the athletic programs, such as they are.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:46 AM
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9. My sister raiser her kids fundy
and then she was shocked when they wanted to go to those kind of schools. She wouldn't pay for one that wasn't accredited, so they both went to state schools, where they were "persecuted" for being Christians. My niece was a freshmman when 911 happened, and one of her teachers said that religious fundamentalism was a worldwide "problem"... my niece felt oppressed.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:52 AM
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10. There's a documentary on this tomorrow night in the UK
called God's Next Army.

Patrick Henry College is only five years old. Its 300 students are smart, focused and well connected and, despite its size, Patrick Henry has provided the current White House administration with more interns than any other college in America. This film follows the incoming freshmen class as they adapt to the college's many strict rules. All the courses, from biology to political science, are taught from a biblical point of view. As the graduates take their first bold steps into the real world, lobbying on Capitol Hill or working on behalf of the Republican National Committee, God's Next Army finds them rapidly climbing the ladders of power.


Hopefully it'll be available for (naughty) downloading.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:57 AM
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11. you'll never see this on the American MSM
ever
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:08 AM
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15. According to a link I found on Google,
it was shown on April 25 on something called the "Discovery Times Channel". It also looks like they'll be showing it again at the end of this month.

Here's a linky: http://times.discovery.com/tvlistings/episode.jsp?episode=0&cpi=115419&gid=0&channel=DTC
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:14 AM
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17. Wow. I was wrong
sort of.

People that have this channel in their cable/satellite packagewill get to see it
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:59 AM
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12. Yep, I've been looking forward to seeing this
ever since I saw it advertised on Channel 4 last Sunday.

You know what I don't get? It's how so many graduates from this completely unaccredited college snag all those plum internships on Capitol Hill. I don't understand why there's not a huge outcry of protest from the more qualified graduates of far, far better universities.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:05 AM
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13. One possibility
Why would a qualified graduate of a good university want to work for this administration?

I'm not necessarily being snarky; seriously. The main requirement for working for the WH these days is an absolute willingness to kiss AWOL's butt in all things. Not a plum job for an intelligent, ambitious 22 year old.
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:25 AM
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21. I don't know about that -
for ambitious graduates of good schools, it's still an impressive thing to be able to put on a resume even if they hate the administration.

It really, really bothers me that so many underqualified people are already running the US government and adding the PHC fundies into the mix sure doesn't help make things any better.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:11 AM
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16. Some aren't even accredited, I don't think Bob Jones is, for instance.
I'm not sure if you can get admitted into professional or grad schools very easily if your degree is not from an accredited school.

Unless:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1300263
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:21 AM
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19. Exactly!
That's one of the reasons it bothers me so much that these unqualified graduates are getting prestigious internships with such substandard academic credentials.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:14 AM
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18. Do they have any special clauses about interracial dating, like Bob Jones?
who used to ban it, and even still to this day requires "parental consent"
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:22 AM
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20. a fool and his money are soon parted.
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