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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:46 AM
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We nasty anti-war types can barely hide our glee over Haditha?
Howard KKKurtz just put that notion forward, maybe quoting someone else, suggesting that we anti war liberals are absolutely TICKLED that war crimes are being exposed in Iraq.

Just for the record: I am not filled with glee about it at all.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:50 AM
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1. I'm a little confused here. Why should we NOT be happy that what we've
suspected (and rightfully so) is coming out in the open? Why should we not be happy that the murder of innocents be investigated and punished? Is that not what a moral society does?
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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:50 AM
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25. I've always wanted to be WRONG
I wanted the tax cuts to stimulate the ecomomy. I just knew they wouldn't.
I wanted junior to be a much better and more successful president than his father. The odds pointed against that.
I wanted the Iraq war to be justified, the weapons to be found, with minumum bloodshed, low financial cost, the Iraqi people greeting us as liberators, and their oil paying to rebuild their country. Magic-Eightball says try again.
And I wanted our soldiers to preform honorably, do their duty well, come home in one piece, and re-integrate into our society; with all the allegation of heinous acts of gleeful murder be propagandous lies. I'm just not gonna bet the farm on it. I still hold out that most will come home with minimal damage.

I'll also be sad when proven correct again.
I'll die some more inside as my country withers.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:53 AM
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27. excellent post. i feel the same way
"I'll also be sad when proven correct again.
I'll die some more inside as my country withers."







welcome to DU, chemp :hi:
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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 07:56 PM
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28. thanks for the welcome
even though I've been here for years.
I just infrequently post.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:50 AM
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2. I won't even dignify krutz with a response to that
but I will say people LIKE krutz and MOST of the MSM are responsible for the deaths of 2500 Americans, the wounding of over 17000 Americans, and the murder of tens of thousands of Iraqii civillians

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:52 AM
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3. then kurtz is and asshole
of course we want crimes to be exposed, of course we want criminals to be punished.

there is no glee over any of this.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:52 AM
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4. Just the same old sad Repuke talking point.
And no credit to them for recycling it yet again.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:52 AM
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5. It's called rationalization. A standard psychological defense.
Liberals are tickled, therefore, no guilt is necessary.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:53 AM
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6. I agree, that's just another straw man. Every aspect of this war
makes me sick! There is some relief that a few atrocities have finally been talked about, but overall there is more corrupt, unethical, and immoral behavior using our taxpayer dollars than I have ever seen in my life. "Shock and Awe", for example, killed a huge number of innocent people, the "collateral damage" that righties just shrug and say that's what happens in a war.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:54 AM
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7. They see our anger and call it glee...
War is Peace...

These people are truly warped.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:56 AM
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8. His statements are propaganda.
Faced with a this situation it becomes necessary to rally the good people behind the Ideology of War and Power.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:58 AM
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9. The neocons certainly became filled with glee after 9-11.
And all the gasbags too.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:58 AM
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10. I would barely conceal my glee at choking the life from Kurtz's
worthless prevaricating throat. That is true, unlike anything he has written in the last several years. To think there was a time when I thought the NYT was actually a good paper...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:59 AM
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11. And we love the terrorists
He forgot to say that we love the terrorists and hate America.

C'mon, Howie, stick to the script! No ad-libs here!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:01 AM
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12. How does he sleep at night, not that I really care. nt
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:05 AM
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13. It's just another way to demonize the us. Oxy-boy says it all the time
when making excuses for one bad or tragic story. That we're happy that it happened. Or we're just beside outselves with glee.

They're scum.

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Minnesota_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:21 AM
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14. I am saddened that they occurred, but thankful they are exposed.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:24 AM
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15. I don't like paying taxes, but I won't pretend like they don't exist.
Liberals confront unsavory topics to pursue justice.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:34 AM
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16. Well of course. We absolutely love it when people are murdered.
It's not like we object to that or anything.
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personman Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:34 AM
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17. I think anyone who values justice is glad it's exposed...
that's quite different from being glad it happened. Stuff like this happens in war and is easily predictable, which is why war should always be a last resort.
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40ozDonkey Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:35 AM
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18. Where's ours?
Where's our pundit to sell to Americans that the Right Wing was overjoyed when 3,000 Americans were killed by a terrorist act their leadership didn't feel like preventing?

Where's our pundit to write about how the Right Wing was ecstatic when New Orleans fell and its citizens drowned, because that would mean a construction boom and less subsidized housing?

Where's our pundit to remind everyone that the Right Wing are content with the failings of government since 2000, in order to push their, "See? Government doesn't work so let's get rid of it!" treason?

Where's our pundit to show the world that the Right Wing "morals" groups are beside themselves to let thousands of American women die every year of cervical cancer because the vaccine might promote "promiscuity"?

The so-called Liberal Media strikes again.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:36 AM
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19. I'm glad they're being exposed, not glad they happened
'tickled with glee'? hardly. Shamed by my complicity as an American. I'm hoping the reports convince more folks to pressure their legislators to pull the plug on the occupation. None of the other outrages have. These might just shame Americans out of any comfort they may have with the violent regime change demonstrated by our military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

That's right, shame them. I'm all for the reports and daily handwringing. It beats the general indifference to the deaths of innocent Iraqs and others at our soldiers hands that existed before these killings were revealed. It beats indifference and rationalization.

The 'collateral' and deliberate killings of civilians has gone on since the beginning of the invasion. No one can convince me they didn't know civilians were getting caught in their crossfire and bombings.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:36 AM
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20. I am sure bill kristol,. the PNAC-nut that howie quoted...
was full of glee when he saw the "Pearl Harbor" of our time (9/11).
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:39 AM
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21. There's too much thought
in this thread. It's very simple. Think about 4th grade.

"I told you so!"

"Oh, yeah?!? Well, you're probably HAPPY those people died!"

Neener, neener, neener.

They got zip. It's all petty BS. It's kinda fun to see them scraping the bottom of the ol' response barrel, and he's a putz.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:45 AM
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22. I'm not filled with glee either...
but anyone who didn't expect this kind of thing, back when the invasion was being talked up by karl and friends, was ignorant of history. People fight back when their country is invaded. Wouldn't Howard Krud, or whatever his name is, fight back if his country was invaded, or would he STILL depend on us "liberals" to do the fighting and dying? Would he be happy if he were in the Iraqi people's shoes now?

War is not like the shit on TV. Reality is Hell!
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:16 AM
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23. Oh Dear God
But I am certain many of ARE saying "We told you so." Because we did.

This is what war does. This is what war is.

But gleeful? More sorrowful and ashamed. So very ashamed.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:48 AM
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24. Tony Blankley on the McLaughlin Group also used the word "gleeful"
They must have all gotten the memo. Tony also went on about "fifth columnists" making winning the war difficult. Also that we (Dems, liberals, media ? not sure exactly who he was talking about) are attempting to "tar" the entire military with Haditha. Eleanor Clift did a pretty good job countering him.

You WILL hear this characterization used again and again as that's one of the tactics. But, it does perform the useful function of identifying the shills. No news on that concerning Kurtz or Blankley.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:50 AM
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26. As if we should be happy when war crimes are ignored?
The only possible good is that in the exposing - and in whatever repercussions - hopefully less of this will occur. (Or maybe they will just hide it better :eyes: ).
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