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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:28 PM
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RED ALERT: Texas GOP platform declares America a "Christian nation"
At Saturday morning's prayer meeting, (Texas GOP) party leader Tina Benkiser assured them that God was watching over the two-day confab.

"He is the chairman of this party," she said against a backdrop of flags and a GOP seal with its red, white and blue logo.

The party platform, adopted Saturday, declares "America is a Christian nation" and affirms that "God is undeniable in our history and is vital to our freedom."

"We pledge to exert our influence toward a return to the original intent of the First Amendment and dispel the myth of the separation of church and state," it says.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/DN-gopreligion_04tex.ART.State.Edition1.903cb29.html

This means war.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:30 PM
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1. This has been on their platform for the past few election cycles
It is old news, yet still scary.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:30 PM
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2. Heads up to any non-Christian,
non straight, non white Texan-this party ain't for you. And I bet there are a lot of progressive Christians in Texas that feel it's not for them as well.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:33 PM
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3. Re:
That assertion does not stand up to fact. I encourage any fellow DUers to take RWs on when it comes to this issue - they're vulnerable because they're WRONG.

Or let me debate them. I'd demolish any RW fundy's arguments in a New York second. I hope for the day that I can take on Falwell, Robertson, (Rod) Parsley, Paul Crouch, etc.
Ringo
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:34 PM
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4. Hate to break the news to her, but God is neither male nor female,
and, being infinite, is in every innocent human that has been slaughtered in the name of their 'freedom.'
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:39 PM
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8. I think you have the straight of it.
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 08:52 PM by EST
If god is anything at all, she must be everything at all.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:36 PM
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5. Nothing like making up your own facts. These people belong in jail
For desecrating the Constitution. That they create their just rewards for betraying human incarnation is certain enough.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:47 PM
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13. I am convinced that these people were released from
mental institutions. In my state, Republicans closed several of them - if this was duplicated around the country, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this is how these nuts reappeared.

Either we all get organized or this country is finished. There is no choice.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 08:48 AM
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42. No, these are people just like you.
The notion that just because a person has some mentall illness, that they somehow become immoral monsters because of it is pretty offensive.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:11 PM
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51. Really? It didn't seem to offend these people when they
classified every GLBT person in the United States as possessing a "mental illness." In fact, many of these same groups perpetrate that belief today. Are you saying they should be exempt from this accusation about their own superstitions?
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:42 PM
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52. Oh please, it was not 'those' people who put it in the DSM-III, and
any, at that time, it was so against societal norms that it satisfied all four criteria of abnormality, and thus they had reason to do it. Sheesh.

What I am getting offended at is that you, and many, many others, talk about mental illness as if it were something intrinsically bad; that those who are mentally ill are somehow immoral, and lastly, it is used as a great fat cop-out when we as a society do not want to take the shared responsibility that is inherit in society. They are like you. Their cognition is biased towards their beliefs yes, but not in abnormal way.

Two bad accusations:
1) GLBT = mentally ill. Lost all credibility under the DSM-IV.
2) That anyone who is a complete bastard must be mentally ill - because after all, only not-normal (as if that even applies to mentall illness) people would ever do bad things :sarcasm:
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:36 PM
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6. These people need brain transplants
:puke:

We still have a religious litmus test in our state consitution, too, you know. You have to profess belief in a 'Supreme Deity". I would LOVE to run for office and refuse to swear on the Bible, etc.

It's shit like this that makes me wish I was still in the UK. People in this country must just be totally genetically fucked. The opposite of what these neopuritans think - we are decidedly NOT blessed. We are cursed. With the worst gene pool in the world. Too bad they reproduce so much and people like me don't.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:39 PM
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7. boy,they'll love my latest ltte in Tha waxahachie paper
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 08:39 PM by w8liftinglady
http://w8liftinglady.blogspot.com/
The President’s latest call for a Constitutional amendment protecting “The sanctity of marriage” is a thinly-veiled attempt to mobilize his rapidly declining base.Are Republicans so easily led?Let’s think of the things that might be a little more important.We are in a war based on lies that is spiraling into another Viet Nam.My son did three tours in Iraq,and I have seen first-hand the tragedy of this war. There are rumors of war with Iran-with our troops already stretched too thin.The federal deficit has reached limits never conceived by economists...7 trillion dollars of DEBT..and climbing.The upper 1% of us received a large tax break,while our country spirals deeper into debt.45 million Americans have no health or dental insurance.As a nurse,I have seen the byproducts of people who wait until something is really wrong before they see a doctor.
Global warming threatens our planet, and our Republican-led congress is trying desperately to pass the “Clean Skies Act”, which will increase the level of emissions that manufacturing companies and refineries can produce. We are sacrificing our Constitutional right to privacy courtesy of the NSA,and Mr. and Mrs. America thinks it doesn’t affect them.We have a huge trade deficit,and most of our major corporations have offshore accounts,so they don’t have to pay American taxes.But,enough of that.Let’s focus on two guys who want to marry each other.That’s SO much more important.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:41 PM
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9. WTF?
Recent studies have found a "religion gap" suggesting church attendance is a good indicator of party affiliation. A survey by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found that among those who attend church more than once a week, two-thirds vote GOP. Among those who seldom or never attend church, two-thirds vote Democratic.


What about the HUGE number of us that fall in the middle, say once a week, twice a month, once a month? This is BS, the survey is BS, and yes - this may mean war!
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Minnesota_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:41 PM
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10. They have long since aligned themselves against the Constitution. (nt)
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:41 PM
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11. hey texas freepers keep your frigging hands off my state..
you have no right to declare America anything...

now if you want to totally fuck up texas..have at it..but keep your filthy hands off my state!!

fly
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:55 PM
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14. Hey!
Some of us actually want to live in Texas - get down here and help us chase these FReepers out!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:11 PM
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20. ahhh shucks..i lived in dallas for a while...i gave up and came home to
NJ where we are proud to be a dem state!!

sorry for you...but dallas isn't as bad as the rest of the red state texas!!


i am an east coast gal..i had to get out of the middle!!

couldn't take it!!

besides i talk to fast for texans!!

fly
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:13 PM
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22. You won't meet a Texan who talks faster than me
Or walks faster, either. ;)
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:29 PM
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30. HAHAHA..MY TEXAS NEIGHBORS USED TO WATCH ME SPEAK!!
they could not keep up with me!!

and i used to fall asleep when they spoke!! lol...

but i got that hookem horns down real well!!..and my family said after i was there a couple years that i sounded funny when i spoke..i guess i picked up enough of the texas twang!!
but there were certain NJ words i just could not rid myself of...
like strawr..and drawr..

it was a dead give away!!

hi texas..wish we could save you!!

fly
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:30 PM
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31. I say
If people complain about me talking too fast:

"Sorry, you need to learn to think faster."

Seriously - if I can SAY it that fast, surely you can HEAR it that fast, asshole.

:eyes:

I lived in the UK for four years, been back here a year next week. People still say I have an English accent. Which I don't. At all.

:hi:
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:21 PM
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28. you have my condolences
or i hope you live in austin or marfa.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:35 PM
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32. Marfa?!
I was in Marfa last weekend. Not the hotbed of coolness it has been advertised as of late, IMHO. Alpine was much more happenin'. Tommy Lee Jones and the Coen Brothers and Daniel Day Lewis were all there.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 08:33 AM
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39. Oh, Austin would be the EAST way out...
I'm a Dallas boy, myself. We're this close to turning Dallas blue in 2006 - our sister, Fort Worth, might need a little more work, though.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 09:58 AM
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44. Sorry - I meant EASY instead of EAST
Editing period expired. I'm butterfingers today.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:45 PM
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12. This is the American Taliban at work. . .
Any citizen in this country who does not recognize this growing danger to our way of life and our government is, in my opinion, a traitor.

This "myth" crap about the First Amendment is pure bulls*it. It has been manufactured by rightwing nutcases like Pat Robertson and Falwell who have convinced themselves that THEY are the true holders of power in this nation by virtue of their pretend assocation with God.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:56 PM
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15. My Jewish Texas Freeper cousin's head is exploding right now.
and I'm lovin' it.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:59 PM
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17. Well, maybe not...
Kinky Friedman is Jewish, Texan, and conservative. He shares some of the goals of the Religious Right, including mandatory organized prayer in public schools.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:01 PM
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19. well then MY Midwestern liberal Jewish head's exploding!
Texas - it's like a whole other... planet.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:56 PM
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16. And Pat Robertson will be promoted to God's VP in charge of RW kooks
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ProgressivePatriot Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:59 PM
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18. It has to be the water.....
afterall...by the time it gets to Texas it's been through the digestive system 7 times.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:14 PM
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23. bwhahahahaha
:spray:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:12 PM
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21. They call Texas the holy land? Or is it San Antonio?
Either way any real Christian/Jewish/Other would cringe and turn their backs on these people.

What God made this place the Eden or Jerusalem of the Bible?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:17 PM
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24. Any idiot who doesn't understand the First Amendment
Any idiot who doesn't understand the First Amendment to separate church and state needs a course in reading comprehension.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

What part of that do they not understand?
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:24 PM
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25. If God is the chairman of the Republican party,
has someone told Ken Mehlman about this development?
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:57 PM
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26. Apparently these idiots failed American History & Reading Comprehension.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:08 PM
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27. In the words of the great Lewis Black ..
"Have you accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior. No? No? THEN YOU MUST NOT BE RUNNING FOR OFFICE THIS YEAR!"

We are not a Christian nation. "Thanks be to god," (or "Hear our prayer," or whatever). Any sane fucking deity is going into the punishment mode (the Old Testament punishment mode), even as we speak.

Mac
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:22 PM
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29. That's Kristian... With A "K"... Correct ???
Heard that said on "The Majority Report" the other day. Thought it a perfect way to describe certain folks who call themselves "Christian".

Ok... maybe with three K's then.

:shrug::evilgrin::shrug:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:37 PM
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33. Mental midgets
These people are psychotic.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 08:45 AM
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41. Armchair Diagnosis, Please don't.
In other words, don't use psychosis as an excuse for their actions. Nor as a way of understanding them. They're human as you are, quite possibly almost as stable.

If you really want to know what the difference between a 'normal' person and someone who is mentally ill is, read the DSM-III, which (rightly at the time) listed homosexuality as a mental illness.

(No worries, DSM-IV doesn't list it)
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 09:23 AM
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43. They are fucking insane ass holes
Even so called "stable" people who would sign over their fate to a magical being in the sky are insane using my diagnostic criteria. And I do not consider DSM-IV to be the be all, end all in diagnostic criteria.

You know they would do the same to any one of us who tried to use a different mythical construct - even if it was equivalent to theirs in every way with just the names changed. It's a sickness.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:46 PM
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54. Uh huh. So, you have your own criteria, huh? I'll agree DSM-IV
does not cover everything, but these are normal people. So they believe something different to you. So you can't understand how anyone 'normal' could possibly believe that stuff. It does not mean that that ARE abnormal.

I'll accept that there are a few, but no more.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:41 PM
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34. flags and a GOP seal with its red, white and blue logo--shudder
someone explain how they're not like Nazis?
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Thickasabrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:44 PM
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35. The "myth" of separation of church and state....WTF?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:00 PM
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36. It certainly does...
My daughter will never be a handmaiden.

-Hoot
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:06 PM
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37. God is a Christian?
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 11:16 PM by NI4NI
hmmmmmm! When did God decide to become a Christian? Geez! Do these people ever, EVER, think before they spout off?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:44 PM
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38. Again?
Careful, now. Complain too much about it, and you'll get called a "secular atheist whackjob" bent on persecuting those poor, downtrodden Christian Right folks who just want to be left alone... to impose their fucking narrow theocratic bullshit on the rest of us.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 08:41 AM
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40. Not cool.
Myth? Do you know what happens when you allow people to use religion politically? I guess you can already see the start of it.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:00 AM
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45. My god
The people that vote for these people... do they really want a theocracy?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:08 AM
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48. YES, they DO.
They're too stupid to know the repercussions of a theocracy.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:04 AM
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46. So THAT'S what those new detainment camps are for. Thanks for the
warning.

What % of people in the U.S. are Christian FUNDIES? Do all the other religions combined out number the Christian FUNDIES?
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:04 AM
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47. Can we just send these people back to England?
Apparently, they skipped civics and history classes. :puke:
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:12 AM
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49. Can somebody take this guy to the zoo...to the Lion section...??
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 10:14 AM
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50. They are laying it on thick, aren't they
Gotta play up to those GOP voting fundie sheep who still have the wool pulled over their eyes. Really. Are they that gullible?
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:45 PM
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53. Original intent of first amendment: "CONGRESS shall make no law..."
What an asshole.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:57 PM
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55. Texas ain't the only one, ya'll....
I just finished firing off a letter to Georgia Pacific about an anti-immigrant screed that was posted on the bulletin board in the driver's lounge (I drive a truck and picked up a load there). It had this same shit, along with lots of other nonsense scrawled (couldn't have been written by anyone with more than an eighth grade education) across several pages.

AND THIS NOT 50 MILES FROM PORTLAND OREGON.

Really cheesed me off. Many drivers are immigrants. How in your face can you get? I told them if it's up when I go back I'll take matters into my own hands.
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