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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 01:29 AM Original message |
High-rent homeless |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 01:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. I moved back into my mother's house because... |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I was super-lucky with my last apartment in San Francisco. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 01:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. In my previous apt, I had corporate-type asshole landlords. |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 01:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I heard a caller on CSPAN, asking if her 30 year old daughter |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 01:53 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Yeah, I'm 23 and it kind of sucked moving back. |
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StellaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 02:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. re your last paragraph |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 06:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
70. i'm in that same boat as well |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 04:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Why not move to a more affordable area of the country? If you're single |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 05:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Yeah, poor people should pack up and leave CA for the rich. |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
65. Condos in a converted school down the street from me START in the mid 200s |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 07:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Seriously, I wish you'd answer my post. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Of course this isn't how it SHOULD be, |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:32 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Actually, without foreign immigration, California would be shrinking. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Speculatore are indeed the bain of this current housing bubble |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:00 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Prop 13 exacerbates the problem terribly and should be repealed. |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. 100% in agreement. MN has a property tax refund which refunds |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
92. Speculation started in the 1980s under Guess Who |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
41. I'm a native Californian; my g-g-grandparents were pioneers... |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. I've got to agree with this. If you choose to live in an region where a |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
58. It is my feeling as well, what you say |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
68. It's not just sun and good weather. |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
94. well, that "intangible something" seems to work for some, but I prefer |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. 40% or more of Americans don't own their homes... |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. 73.8% home ownership in the west; median home value $151,000. |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. And a lot of people have taken their CA equity and bought palaces in BFE. |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. The question is, why, in one of the most liberal state in the nation, are |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Social liberal, but rabidly anti-tax... |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Municipalities can provide support for affordable housing with bonds. |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 10:35 PM Original message |
Dupe post |
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huskerlaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
104. Move to a place where you can afford it... |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Yes. If the alternatives are being homeless or moving to somewhere |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. I've had to move for the reverse reason: Houses were cheap, but |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
49. I don't believe I said anything about moving to Egypt. This is, however |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
69. bumfuck egypt is slang for the country. |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #69 |
81. See msg #73 for what you could get for $700 in chicago. Never heard |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Oh, I know Chicago is cheaper, but it's still overpriced... |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Have you actually compared median salaries? the salary disparity |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. I think "bumfuckin' egypt" is a West Coast expression |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #49 |
110. I have lived all over the country... |
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One_of_8 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
51. It would be nice if the cost of living were less |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:21 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. What a STUPID response! |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
50. Not stupid at all, I know exactly what he/she means. |
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One_of_8 (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
56. Why do you consider that stupid? |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Jobs are a huge issue |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. There are a lot of major cities outside of California |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I wasn't just speaking of CA |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. In my last survey, i found the best vibes |
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liberaliraqvet26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 05:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
66. Im looking at Atlanta... |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. CA, quite frankly, is NOT a great place to live; it's the worst place I've |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
54. Some people CAN'T move... |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I agree. I did say "If you're single and young..." But if a family cannot |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #57 |
105. Images of the 'Grapes of Wrath" |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
76. Well, right now I'm trying to just save up money. |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 05:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
67. Something SERIOUSLY wrong... |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. If it didn't involve my mother then it would be great. |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 01:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. But it's a boom! |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 01:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Yeah, it's such a boom that most of my friends between 22 & 30 have |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 07:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Corporations even more so. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Wow!!! Landlord and psychologist in one! |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
9. a thought... |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 01:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
112. when we kids were little (in the 40s), we owned our house but many |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
10. i live in hawthorne |
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NJCher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
13. check landlord tenant law |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. Few such protections in CA. A lease protects you for the term of |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
16. The problem with Long Beach, CA |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
17. She couldn't find another place for $900 a month? |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. My Rent Is Under $1K in Silicon Valley |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:34 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Everything within 200 miles of the ocean, pretty much. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:16 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Not Really. |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Maybe a studio - MAYBE. |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I'm Not in The City |
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Displacing the working class |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
30. Catch 23 |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. 22 nt |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. No this is 23 |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. ahhhh, I stand corrected. nt |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
36. $1200 a month |
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Momgonepostal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Maybe that USED to be a mortgage in Sac, but not now |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:29 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. umm, not really |
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Momgonepostal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. I live in a so-so condo complex and don't think... |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Same Here in Boston |
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Jim Warren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
72. That's almost funny |
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SunDrop23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
39. What kind of country? Well it's bush country of course! |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
46. Can't Afford to Live on my Own |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
48. In So. Cal, most home owners want housing prices to stay high - |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
74. Wrong, wrong, and oh look, wrong! |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. What did I say that is wrong? Without a doubt, CA is one of the least |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
53. we've been good landlords in chicago- |
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Glimmer of Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
60. My rent in DC just went up 10%. Last year it was 5%. |
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liberaliraqvet26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
61. Same problem here in West Palm Beach FLA... |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. And for those who don't know WPB... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
62. Hang on, Sloopy hang on... |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
63. The rent in Cali is outrageous, you can own a home for less than 1200 in |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 06:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. I went on a trip through GA in 2003... |
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pstokely (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-06-06 03:49 AM Response to Reply #73 |
109. You should see I-70 between Kansas City and Columbia |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
64. It is completely unsustainable |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
75. I made the decision between housing & a reasonbly acceptable lifestyle... |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
78. LB - not a nice town? Much of it is quite nice, thank you very much |
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bertha katzenengel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
79. Heartbreaking and infuriating - but "not even a really nice town" ? |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Hey Bertha - my hubby went to Marina...class of 76. |
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bertha katzenengel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Dig it! Edison '81 here. |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:03 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. 81 myself - St. Joes/St. John Bosco and a little Golden West to boot! |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. When I stayed there in a few weeks in 1991.... |
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bertha katzenengel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Long Beach, like many large cities, has bad areas. Obviously you were in |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:03 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Uh - sounds like you missed the nice part... |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:12 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. No doubt there are nice pockets... |
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bertha katzenengel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. "No way I could live in LA or one of its 'burbs." -- so why diss it? |
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Yollam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:35 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Repeal Prop.13 for starters. |
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bertha katzenengel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. That would be an excellent start. Problem is, it'll never happen. |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 12:01 AM Response to Reply #79 |
111. Wow. That must make for tense relations with your father. My sympathy. |
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catzies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
82. As the world's 6th largest economy it's a tragedy all our citizens aren't |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
91. I have one son living with me. |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-05-06 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
108. CA is one of the most liberal states in the nation. Why aren't the |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 02:52 AM Response to Reply #108 |
113. California really isn't all that liberal. |
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lindisfarne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-07-06 03:01 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. I know what you mean about Prop. 82 not passing - it's not even close. |
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