post pics of gays in nazi germany here

I think that this image is the best counter arguement to w. tonight (cause this is what the neo-cons crave).

When it suited them, and of course the mentally or physically inferior.

They weren't liberated like political prisoners, Jews, etc... Why? Because they were deviant criminals.

Friday, June 2, 2006
Sexpidemic! (Congressional Division)
Topic: WorldNetDaily
It took the word "orgies" -- well, actually, a Republican congressman's accusation of orgies -- but WorldNetDaily has finally sprung into action and showed a little interest in Duke Cunningham scandal-related activities.

A mere month or so after the allegation first surfaced (despite WND's prurient interest in sexual matters), a June 2 WND article reports on the hookers-and-poker segment of the Cunningham scandal -- but only because Rep. Peter King issued a threat to "launch an investigation into rumors of orgies involving CIA agents at the Watergate Hotel" if New York doesn't get more Homeland Security money.

This is only the fourth mention of Cunningham scandals in an original WND news article since last December, when Cunningham resigned after pleading guilty to taking bribes, despite WND's claim to be "a watchdog exposing government waste, fraud, corruption and abuse of power."

Posted by Terry K. at 7:26 PM EDT | link to this post

More:
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/blog/index.blog?entry_id=1493898

Paragraph 175

Historical Context

An unnatural sex act committted between persons of male sex or by humans with animals is punishable by imprisonment; the loss of civil rights may also be imposed.

- German Penal Code, 1871

Between 1933 and 1945, according to Nazi documents, approximately 100,000 men were arrested for homosexuality. Roughly half were sentenced to prison and approximately 10,000 to 15,000 were sent to concentration camps. The death rate of homosexual prisoners in the camps is estimated to be as high as sixty percent (among the highest of non-Jewish prisoners), so that by 1945 only about 4,000 survived.

That gay men were persecuted by the Nazis and branded with a pink triangle is becoming common knowledge. Less well known is that many gay survivors were subjected to ongoing persecution in post-Nazi Germany, where they were seen not as political prisoners but as criminals under the Nazi sodomy law, which remained on the books even after liberation. Some were actually re-arrested after the war and re-imprisoned. All were excluded from reparations by the German government, and their time spent in concentration camps was deducted from their pensions. Escape by suicide, marriage, or retreat into isolation was common. In the 1950s and 1960s, the number of convictions for homosexuality in West Germany was as high as it had been during Nazi rule. The Nazi version of the sodomy law remained on the books until 1969.

When the international community sought atonement for the victims of Hitler's Germany at the Nuremberg Trials of 1946, neither the atrocities committed against homosexuals nor the anti-gay legislation and measures were mentioned. Homophobia and anti-gay persecution were accepted as normal in post-war Europe and in the United States. Holocaust research, memorials, and museums likewise ignored the fate of homosexual concentration camp inmates. Still today, the German government refuses to officially acknowledge homosexual men as victims of the Nazi regime. Other European countries have similar poicies of exclusion and non-recognition.

In the 1990's, researchers began to document the histories of the men who wore pink triangles. The first institution to do so was the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC, which changed public perceptions by including the Nazi persecution of homosexuals in their exhibits. Encouraged by historians and the museum, several gay survivors -- some of them in their late 80s and early 90s -- came forward to tell their stories for the first time, ending decades of unnatural silence and isolation. In 1995, eight survivors issued a collective declaration demanding judicial and moral recognition of their persecution.

More:
http://www.tellingpictures.com/films/p175/p175_phis.html

:puke:

A CNN anchorman said this to the Family Research Coucil Clown, he poo pooed it of course.

how they want anti sodomy laws enacted. When are we going to acknowledge that pukes and RW is for nazism? Thats what one gets when they go to the far right.

Let's have a bumper-sticker design contest with that slogan!

Any phrase including Wastika.

:toast:

Same thing happened to them.

Din

Paragraph 175: The Holocaust and Homosexuals
May 09, 2005

Camp VictimsSixty years ago, in the spring of 1945, Allied forces liberating Europe found evidence of atrocities which have tortured the world's conscience ever since. As the troops entered the German concentration camps, they made a systematic film record of what they saw. Work began in the summer of 1945 on the documentary, but the film was left unfinished. FRONTLINE found it stored in a vault of London's Imperial War Museum and, in 1985, broadcast it for the first time using the title the Imperial War Museum gave it, "Memory of the Camps."

Watch the Full Program Online
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/camp/view/
Windows Media & Real Player

More:
http://www.queervisions.com/arch/2005/05/memory_of_the_c.html



Also:


8 - Memorials of the Gay Holocaust
Here we collwct pictures of Gay Holocaust Memorials. It you have the missing data or pictures, or sites to be added, please, send us an e-mail. Thank you. Matt & Andrej Koymasky
http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/holocaust/ho08.html









Buchenwald concentration camp, Germany (circa 1938).
Gay prisoners were identified by pink triangle badges.
http://www.tidmus.com/blog/index.php?id=68

Does this remind you of anything happening today? Hmmm?

"Shortly after the purge in 1934, a special division of the Gestapo was instituted to compile lists of gay individuals. In 1936, Heinrich Himmler, Chief of the SS, created the "Reich Central Office for the Combating of Homosexuality and Abortion."

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_gays_in_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Holocaust

There are also pics there but I'm hopeless at posting pics.

forces, especially those of the Religious Right, would like to see. Don't think for one minute that it's a counter argument.

the Religious Right - but we're never going to reach them. Making explicit connections does open the eyes of folks who are kind of opposed to gay marriage - but have not made the ideological connections between the promoters of the marriage discrimination amendment and previous incarnations of their ilk (Nazi Germany, for example).

If they can't see the parallels it's because they don't WANT to see them, IMHO. Then again, way too many Americans are appallingly ignorant of history.

making them less ignorant by making sure the parallels are very apparent - rather than just rolling over and playing dead.

Much of the reporting on these fanatics has been carefully orchestrated to obscure the most obvious parallels. The most acceptable parts are paraded front and center. If you dig around you can easily find the rest, but most people - and most media don't bother.

For example, with the marriage discrimination amendment in Ohio the public posture was that all it was intended to do was bar gays from marriage - that was the entirety of its promotion. The second sentence literally applied to heterosexual partnerships other than marriage - and the most vocal proponents discounted any concerns by repeating the impact of the first sentence, and assuring listeners that it was not intended to do anything else. The drafters of the amendment, however, were very clear that they intended to bar any non-marriage relationship (regardless of the gender of the parties), and to strip any benefits that might be available by virtue of such partnerships - such as protection for partners who were battered by individuals to whom they were not married. There was virtually no reporting of the intent of the individuals who drafted the amendment.

But how many of the party's leaders have you seen who have the balls to bring up such parallels?

that this is not a party issue, the heaping pile of blame dumped on gays and lesbians for Kerry's here on DU certainly did the trick - so if you are saying Dem leaders should be bringing it up - but aren't - I wholeheartedly agree and am done sitting in the back of the bus waiting until the time is right.

IS that this IS what they want

NOT joking.

Note to metrosexuals and anyone ambiguous: Get a lady and superglue your gonads to her or fight back.