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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:29 PM
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Democrats begin to split over war, Bush
Monday, June 5, 2006 - Page updated at 12:00 AM
Democrats begin to split over war, Bush
By Steven Thomma

Knight Ridder Newspapers

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Anti-war and anti-Bush fervor is growing among rank-and-file Democrats, threatening to pull the party to the left and creating a rift between increasingly belligerent activists and the party's leaders in Washington.

Many outside-the-beltway Democrats want the party to turn against the war in Iraq and to investigate, censure or even impeach President Bush should the party win control of Congress this fall.

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On Saturday, Washington state Democrats meeting at their annual convention in Yakima approved a party platform that said the invasion of Iraq was unjustified and called for a complete and rapid exit strategy for U.S. troops there. And delegates erupted in boisterous cheers when state party chairman Dwight Pelz promised investigations of Bush and members of his administration if Democrats win back the U.S. House or Senate in November.

In New Hampshire, the state that will kick off the party's 2008 presidential primary voting, activists gave thunderous ovations this weekend to Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., when he pressed his anti-war agenda, boasted that he alone among potential 2008 presidential candidates opposed the war from the start, and pushed for a censure of Bush.

In Maine on Saturday, state Democrats passed a resolution urging impeachment.

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003040127_demo05.html


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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:30 PM
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1. The rank and file are the party and if they go,
the "leaders" will lose their status. We need new leaders or we need to go.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:32 PM
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2. Wow, for a while I thought I was reading the Onion
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:37 PM
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5. why are so many articles so aggravating?
split, rift, threatening to pull to the left.

god damn. is this a right wing fundamentalist fascist country? is liberalism a threat to america?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:46 PM
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9. Digby is typically very good at talking about "press narratives"...
... If you haven't already, see, for example: http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_digbysblog_archive.html#114937518656008343


It IS maddening how little the press cares about truth.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:35 PM
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Correction. *Promising* to pull the party to the left. Not threatening.
We demand an Anti-War party, not two pro-war parties.
http://pdamerica.org

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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:35 PM
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3. The Dems in the DC bubble
are starting to pay attention and realize that they are no longer setting an agenda that will be blindly followed. The Dems that have enabled Bush are starting to feel the sting of rejection.

Let a thousand flowers bloom and let the people's voices be heard over the bubble people! :applause:
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:35 PM
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4. typical MSM barely coded bias -- i.e., Dems are "pulled to
the left," but, of course, the lunatic rightwing fringe has not "pulled the GOP to the (far) right"-- at least, you'd never see that in "balanced" "news"...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:43 PM
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6. What a misleading title
It sounds like the party is UNITING to protest the war and the president. Where's the split?
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:45 PM
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7. Yeah, there's a split
90/10
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:46 PM
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8. increasingly belligerent activists ????
They ain't seen nothing yet!
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:49 PM
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10. more repuke wishful thinking....
for that liitle band of freepin' circlejerks...

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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 01:22 PM
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11. Well, at least they're starting to take Democrats more seriously

For years the mainstream media haven't even really bothered to cover Democratic conventions and such more than in passing, and generally not taken it seriously outside fully Democrat-run states.

It's the Gandhi thing about an ascendent movement. First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, and then they fight you. (And then you win.)
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 01:25 PM
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12. Texas' State Democratic Convention is later this week...
Edited on Mon Jun-05-06 01:25 PM by VelmaD
and if I was y'all I'd put money down that we'll pass both anti-Iraq War and Impeach Bush resolutions down here. :)
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 01:37 PM
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13. There will be no split. I foresee unity on this by the election.
This article is trying to paint a huge gap between "belligerent activists (that would be us :eyes: ) and what they consider the sane members of the Democratic party. There may be disagreements, of course there are - but gradually I think all Dems will be on board a withdrawal of Iraq and censure (at least) of Bush. We have an election to win, then we can fight The Decider and launch investigations. First things first.

We can't allow the media talk us into a rift as they so often like to do.

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