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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:45 PM
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What is Randi reading from about W having some encounter?
Edited on Mon Jun-05-06 02:46 PM by eleny
I just opened the stream and didn't hear the start.

Edit: Madsen?
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:47 PM
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1. A dominatrix who is running for Gov. of Nevada claims that
in 1984 she witnessed GWB perform a gay sex act on another man.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:48 PM
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6. Condi is a man? I always suspected this....
Who performed on whom?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:48 PM
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7. Here's the link.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:57 PM
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16. thanks, i never saw that before today
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:49 PM
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8. Yes. Victor Ashe.
Victor and W hired her to do a threesome with them, and then IGNORED her.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:57 PM
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14. oh, ashe again
thanks, ben!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:00 PM
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20. Bush's Boyfriend
Edited on Mon Jun-05-06 03:05 PM by seemslikeadream


Bush's Boyfriend

Bush's Evangelical Base Will Be Shocked
BUSH'S BOYFRIEND Forget the Smear Against John Kerry
Victor H. Ashe was the Mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee from 1988 to January, 2004. Ashe was a member of the U.S. Conference of Mayors Executive Committee and a past President of the U.S. Conference of Mayors. Mr. Ashe has been a Fannie Mae director since 2001. He was appointed by George W. Bush. In 1984, then-Democratic Rep. Albert Gore triumphed in the key race for the Tennessee Senate seat of retiring Senate Republican leader Howard Baker, defeating Republican Victor Ashe. Skull and Bones initiation antics: ....Then the potential candidates perform sexual ceremonies even with some homosexual overtones. Later, they "lay naked in coffins and tell their deepest and darkest sexual secrets as part of their initiation." (Esquire Magazine, “The Last Secret of Skulls and Bones, “Ron Rosenbaum, p. 85) The coffin is full of manure and this takes place in a place called “The Tomb” within the Skull and Bones Crypt. In the Tomb, their whole sex life and other deep, personal details are completely revealed with shockingly new members engage in homosexual acts while they lay in a coffin. George W. Bush admitted his affinity to the Skulls and Bones in Time Magazine. Bush on Meet the Press: RUSSERT: You were both in Skull & Bones, the secret society. BUSH: It so secret we can't talk about it. RUSSERT: What does that mean for America? The conspiracy theorists are going to go wild. BUSH: I'm sure they are. I don't know. I haven't seen the Web pages yet. RUSSERT: Number 322? It’s known by many sources that George W. Bush in 1968 was performing homosexual acts with his male sex-mate and Yale roommate Mayor Ashe of Knoxville, TN. While mayor, Ashe made several unscheduled visits to the White House and, according to US Secret Service sources, Bush made at least 8 unscheduled and unannounced trips to Knoxville while he has been President. Ashe is suspected of two arrests. One was in Washington DC and the other was in Atlanta, while he was a Tennessee state legislator. They allegedly involved arrests while he was picking up male tranvestite prostitutes in public restrooms. Ashe was allegedly introduced on live TV as "The gay mayor from Knoxville" at a national mayor's conference in San Francisco. Mayor Ashe also refused to change Knoxville's Gay Street's name to something less, er...., gay. . As for Matt Drudge, who has decided to work with Karl Rove to smear John Kerry with tripe about an "intern," this speaks volumes: A book by Jeannette Walls's has an interview in it with a purported former Drudge boyfriend, David Cohen, who recalls that Drudge once hung out with a gay group and "loved to do wild, provocative things to draw attention to himself." A "perturbed" Drudge tells Brett Sokol of the Miami New Times: "I go to bars. I go to straight bars, I go to gay bars. never said there was sex; she said there was dating. She never had enough to go that far." And as far as K. "Edgar" Rove is concerned: "Washington is awash with stories of Rove's Hooveresque off-hours antics (as in J. Edgar Hoover)." also: "anti-tax activist Grover Norquist is a close advisor to President Bush and Karl Rove. Norquist is a supporter of the Republican Unity Coalition, an ad hoc gay group that supports George W. Bush. Grover Norquist’s best friend is Karl Rove."

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display_printable/90844/index.php


Vice President Dick Cheney , left, talks with Victor Ashe, United States Ambassador to Poland, right, as White House Chief of Staff Andy Card, center, and Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, far right, look on during President Bush 's meeting with Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski Wednesday, Feb. 9, 2005 in Washington.

http://fr.news.yahoo.com/050209/74/49m2l.html

Rumors


There is a rumor on the net that Victor Ashe and George W. Bush have been gay lovers. The source of this rumor is Sherman Skolnick. He seems to be the sole source of this and many other rumors. Before Kitty Kelley’s book “The Family: The Real Story of the Bush Dynasty” was released, Skolnick claimed that her book substantiated his assertions. He also accused her of using him as an unnamed source. Upon being published, the book was absent of nearly all of his claims. Unsubstantiated rumors about Victor Ashe include:

· Ashe was arrested twice in drag for picking up homosexual prostitutes in public restrooms in Washington D.C. and Atlanta, Georgia.

· Peter Jennings introduced Ashe on national TV in San Francisco as "The gay mayor from Knoxville."

· Ashe wanted to rename Gay Street to "Gay Way."

· Ashe’s mother was arrested for hit-and-run while hiding out at the mayor’s house.

· The National Enquirer in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida was shut down by the F.B.I. for “Anthrax” after 9/11 because they had pictures of Ashe engaged in a Skull & Bones homosexual ritual.

· George W. Bush and Ashe have had a long-term homosexual affair. It is widely reported that they have spent much private time together over the years including their time as roommates at Yale, a seven city tour when Ashe was running for the U.S. Senate, numerous stays by Ashe at the White House, visits by Bush to Ashe in Knoxville, and other trips together without Laura Bush.

· Ashe and Bush would rendezvous at a Tennessee location owned by the purported top financier of Osama Bin Laden.

· Paul O'Neill was sacked as Treasury Chief because he was unable to stop Secret Service agents from leaking the Ashe affair to the press, or from quitting their jobs in disgust.

· The “Red Chinese Secret Police” have used the Bush/Ashe affair to get secrets out of the White House.

· Ashe was nominated Ambassador to Poland because the press had learned about the Bush/Ashe affair and because Ashe has AIDS.

Interesting facts

In 1974, a Judge ruled that Ashe’s run for the Tennessee State Senate was illegal because he would turn 30, the minimum age to serve, after the election. Ashe’s mother ran instead, was elected, and resigned after her first day in office and appointed her son Senator (KnoxNews December 14, 2003).
Speaker John Wilder once offered him $10 to sit down and shut up (KnoxNews December 14, 2003).
His opponent in his 1978 re-election bid, Carl Warner, took a swing at him after Ashe made what Warner termed a snide remark (KnoxNews December 14, 2003).
The only political race he lost was to Al Gore, Jr. in 1984 for the U.S. Senate. (KnoxNews December 14, 2003).
Ashe opposed the referendum on term limits that resulted in his inability to run for a 5th term as mayor.
John Lee sued the City Corporation and its individual agents, including Mayor Victor Ashe, for illegally towing his Honda automobile, without a parking ticket. The City Inc. then denied that they had towed it for over six weeks, and listed the vehicle as "stolen" in the National Criminalistics Information Computer (NCIC), operated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI). This resulted in a $700 towing and storage bill from the Corporation's contractor, Sutherland Avenue Wrecker Service. (read more).
Ashe was George W. Bush’s roommate at Yale and they were both on the Cheerleading Squad together.

http://x23e23.tripod.com/ashe.htm



http://www.geocities.com/bushgaygate/
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:51 PM
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26. How impolite.
Still, it was their money.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:56 PM
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13. thanks!
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:47 PM
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2. Condi and her strap-on? nt
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:47 PM
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3. a woman running for Gov of Nevada....
is the woman who was part of a bisexual triste back in '84. She's spilled the beans apparently.
http://bushssecretlifein84.tripod.com/
http://mcconnellforgovernor.com/
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:59 PM
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19. So this is a new site put up recently?
I mean the bushsecretlife84 website.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:18 PM
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24. I don't think so. I remember seeing it last year.
But the fact that this woman has identified herself IS new.
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 07:35 PM
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32. According to Randi,
the website has been around for about 2 years now. I remember hearing about Ashe before the 2004 elections, when Kitty Kelley's book on the BFEE came out.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:47 PM
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4. Does this have to do with what she was saying last week...
...About Shrub and Condi bumping uglies???
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:48 PM
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5. Free archives at...
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:49 PM
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9. Please put this letter up ASAP Rhandi
just for shits and giggles

Ewwwwwwww
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:52 PM
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10. kick 'cause....well you can't make this shit up.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:53 PM
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11. It doesn't matter - he was "saved" from his evil past sinful life
that is the handiest excuse - EV-ah.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:00 PM
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21. Yeah, just accept jesus and that's the ticket to heaven
No good works needed.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:54 PM
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12. And I thought the York Times story about Bill and Hillary's marriage
Edited on Mon Jun-05-06 03:03 PM by rocknation
was meant to offset the Globe tabloid story about Laura moving out of the White House because she caught George with Condi!

P.S. Ms. O'Connell HAS to know she isn't credible, and that goes double for Randi. Between them, they'd better have a smoking gun AND a stained dress!

:rofl:
rocknation
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:59 PM
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18. Fair is Fair - the RW ran with these kind of stories
against Clinton. I was thinking in fact if this was Clinton, Drudge would have up the siren, Limpballs, Hannity, etc., would be all over it. Faux, Tweety, Scarborough, and the anorexic Repuke blondes would be talking about it non-stop and the Repuke congress would be starting up an investigation.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:01 PM
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22. don't you know it!
it would be non stop and wall to wall.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 04:30 PM
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30. Fair is fair is a rationalization
Either we're for the truth or we're not.

Slightly less full of bullshit than the right wing is not the world I wish to build.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:57 PM
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15. just found this on another blog:
The Truth about George W. Bush Here you will find out the little known truth concerning President George W. Bush, Victor Ashe, the current American ambassador to Poland (formerly mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee and Exec. V.P.; C.F.O. of Fannie Mae), and their adulterous-bisexual relationship with a Las Vegas woman in 1984.

This situation took place in 1984 in the State of Tennessee. It concerns a 41 year old woman , Victor Ashe and George Bush’s encounter in 1984 during the senate debates between Al Gore, Jr., Victor Ashe and Ed McAteer. She was invited to come to Tennessee by Victor Ashe. While attending one of these debates she spoke briefly with Ed McAteer (Senatorial candidate in 1984 who debated alongside Al Gore, Jr. and Victor Ashe, and was responsible in part for the emergence of the Religious Right).

Members of the mainstream media (CNN, FOX/news, Chicago Tribune) have known about this Las Vegas woman since September of 2003 yet they have done little if anything to get to the bottom of it. Like Bush’s national guard service records they’ve given him a free pass concerning the what, where and when of his participation in the Texas Air National Guard.

We believe if the whereabouts and war-time behavior of Senator Kerry during his tour in Vietnam in the early 70’s are matters of importance to the American people then the past behavior of this President and his involvement in a homosexual situation with another man in the mid 80’s is of equal importance.

When this Las Vegas woman told us about her conversation with Ed McAteer we thought it was something that should be looked into. He was being treated for cancer so we had to move quickly to open a dialogue. We believed obtaining a death bed declaration of a man of Ed McAteer’s stature in the Christian community would have held tremendous weight. Ed coming forward to say what he witnessed or knew concerning this matter would have been unimpeachable. Ed was a staunch supporter of the state of Israel and quietly lobbied for the post of U.S. ambassador to Israel back in 2001 but was turned down for the position by none other than George W. Bush. It seems in George W. Bush’s isolated bubble, ambassadorships are rewards set aside for friends and lovers only.

We initially contacted Mr. McAteer back in May of this year. He mentioned at that time Victor Ashe’s sexual shenanigans were no secret in Tennessee. He seemed resentful of his party’s choice to back a ‘sodomite’ which is why he ran as an independent. Ed was on chemotherapy and it was extremely difficult for him to talk so we deferred until late August at which time his wife informed us he wanted to talk further but was under doctors orders to refrain from all strenuous activity. Sadly, Ed McAteer passed away on Oct. 5, 2004, before we could do a follow-up interview, he was 78. For Ed’s sake we hope his departure was natural , however, the timing of it all seems rather untimely in our opinion. It bares looking into by the Tennessee authorities.

When he passed way another writer contacted Faye and she imparted to him that Ed seemed upset upon returning from the debate in Chattanooga back in 1984. Was Ed aware of Victor Ashe and George W. Bush’s bisexual behavior? Perhaps that is what upset him so.

Unfortunately he didn’t get the chance to tell us what he witnessed that night that upset him or if he remembered talking with the Las Vegas woman.

The Las Vegas woman was paid $15,000 to arrange sexual liaisons involving bisexual men for George W. Bush (then private citizen) and Victor Ashe (then a Tennessee State Senator). These adulterous bisexual affairs (3 encounters in all-3 different cities) took place in the state of Tennessee during the 1984 senate debates between, Al Gore, Jr., Victor Ashe and Ed McAteer. An African-American woman was invited to participate in this adulterous sexual encounter with George W. Bush and Victor Ashe immediately following the Chattanooga senatorial debate. This woman was paid $1,500. A few years later the Las Vegas woman was detained in Washington D.C. with Victor Ashe by the Metro D.C. police. She was released but Victor was taken into custody.

So confident was this woman that Ed would have remembered her she had finally come forward and was prepared to tell it all. She will swear to the authenticity of what is being imparted here, which is the reason that we built this website so we could get this information out to you.

Bush & Co. will no doubt tell the world she’s insane, politically motivated thus concocting this for smear reasons. She is of sound mind and body and welcomes all inquires from the mainstream media. This woman deeply laments not having come forward back in 2000 when then Governor Bush was running for the highest office in the land against Vice President Al Gore, Jr.

Disclosure of George W. Bush’s adulterous bisexual behavior will only happen if the American public demand answers. Contact your local news organizations demanding that this truth be revealed and not go the way of his Texas Air National Guard records.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:10 PM
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23. Thanks CW
This was easier to read than the site with the yellow text on the black background.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:58 PM
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17. looks like I choose a good day to tune into the Senate instead
I know the value of what Randi is doing, but it just doesnt interest me.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:23 PM
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25. I came here to find out myself. Was listening on XM. It was something
about someone getting tired of * and the anti-gay who came forward talking about *'s gay acts. Did Sam get that into FUBAR. Just downloaded it from iTunes today and haven't started listening to it. There's like 46 pages about the anti-gay gay Repubs.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:53 PM
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27. Archive of this will be delayed...
Streaming went down JUST as she was talking about this, so I will need to get the show from one of the delayed broadcast sources.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 04:11 PM
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28. I had to switch to WJNO
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 07:06 PM
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31. I decided that a complete archive was better...
Than stitching together two partials.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 04:19 PM
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29. I'm waiting on the first cspan caller to mention this.
And will wait for the repuke callers heads to explode. lol!
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