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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:22 PM
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If you're married by a JP/Judge/civil ceremony, is it still sanctified?
You are not married in a church in front of God. How do fundies view such unions?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:27 PM
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1. Is this betrween a man and a woman
maybe kosher, but you should run to the Church, and the correct church to boot... to avoid that life of sin....

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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:37 PM
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6. Yes. I should have elaborated.
But if some JP, not a holy man/woman conducts the non-religous ceremony, is it still a union under the rules of God? Wouldnt it be like having a friend telling you that you're married and having it recognized by church and law?
Just curious here.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:50 PM
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8. Yes the church (with the possible exception of the Catholic Churh)
accept secular vow as binding in the eyes of God.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:56 PM
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9. How is that though?
Is spending $60.00 for a license and having some guy who may be a shmuck marry you acceptable in the eyes of God? But just living together is considered "living in sin", because you didnt spend $60.00 and have the possible shmuck do the ceremony? I dont see the difference.

Please dont flame me on the JP-shmuck thing. Just using it to prove a point.
My Ma was a JP for years and married several couples in her house.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:33 AM
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12. Marriage is not exclusive to the church. It is defined as a legal
contract between two adult persons. I do talk about why the Catholic's see it differently. As to what the difference is between shacking up and marriage. Simple: there is no legal contract that protects all parties. As to how God sees it: What do you care if you do not follow God? Those of us who do believe in God have agreed to accept the rules. If you do not then you shouldn't care. It is called individual freedom. Do your own thing.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:28 PM
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2. Marriage is a legal action, sanctioned by the state.
That's why there are church weddings, and civil ceremonies. And also why there are marriage licenses.

It's a tricky subject, and one which fundies haven't given much thought to (at least, not since the Civil War).
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:31 PM
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3. Who cares? I was married before a judge. If God didn't see it, so much
for omniscience.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:34 PM
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4. I got married in Vegas....
God was there, but we could get him away from the nickel slots. :woohoo:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:35 PM
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5. sanctified, no -- married -- oh yes -- very much.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 06:47 PM
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7. Sanctified means blessed. Usually that is connected to religion.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 07:05 PM
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10. So in spite of a civil ceremony its still "living in sin".
And not blessed but its still ok with RWers/fundies?
I just find it funny as to where they draw their lines.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 11:26 AM
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11. You are reading into my answer. The church defines marriages
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 11:37 AM by jwirr
as a legal status sanctioned by the government. There is no other kind of marriage. Sanctified is a religious term not a secular term and it does not even apply to the idea of if a marriage is real or not. Those who wish a special blessing upon their marriage seek that in the church. God does not deny marriages that are made outside of the church - except the Catholic Church which does not recognize any marriage that is not preformed in their church. I do not agree with the Catholic interpretation. You know that one of the reasons they are fighting the idea of marriage between same sex is because the consider marriage a sacrament. It would change the meaning of marriage for their purposes. I take it you are looking at sanctification from their viewpoint and I cannot help you there. They do judge all other marriages as invalid in God's eyes.
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